UFO Disclosure, Varginha, and the Captured Creature: James Fox
episodePreviously titled “631: UFO Disclosure, Varginha, and the Captured Creature | Basement #005: James Fox” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 2, 2026
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What is discussed at the start of this section?
Today, I'm talking with James Fox. He's spent three decades investigating UFO cases, and he's produced seven documentaries, including The Phenomenon, which hit number three in all genres when it dropped. And back in 2007, he organized what's still considered the most credible civilian UFO disclosure event in history, 14 military and government officials from seven countries, all at the National Press Club in Washington. But here's what makes James different. He doesn't chase headlines. He knocks on doors. He tracks down military records. He befriends witnesses for years before they'll even sit down with him. His latest investigation, the Virginia incident in Brazil, took him there four times in the last year.
And what he found is significant. He found a neurosurgeon who claims he had face-to-face contact with a captured non-human being. We learn about a military officer who died weeks after handling one of the creatures. And for the first time, all the locations that James talks about line up on Google Maps. We're going to get into all of it. Let's go downstairs.
Today we're talking to James Fox. This is exciting. One of the most prolific documentary filmmakers working in the UFO space. I don't call it UAPs. He got a start early assisting his father, writer and photographer Charles Fox, conducting interviews for Rolling Stone, Sports Illustrated, Car and Driver, and that foundation in rigorous journalism shows in his work. James spent three decades... Three decades. Investigating UFO cases, producing seven documentaries, including Out of the Blue, I Know What I Saw, The Phenomenon, which is my favorite, The Program, and in 2070, organized what's still considered the most credible civilian UFO disclosure event in history, bringing 14 military and government officials from seven countries to the National Press Club in Washington.
His latest film, Moment of Contact, Newer Revelations, which is a follow-up of Moment of Contact 1, expands on his nearly 30-year investigation into the Varginha incident in Brazil, a case involving non-human beings, military capture, and one mysterious death. So remember, we're not here to convince or persuade anybody. We just want to hear the story. James, this is not a professional operation, but I'm very excited to talk to you. Thanks for coming in.
Oh, that was a great intro. I got to meet this guy.
You got to meet him. I think his name is ChatGPT. Oh my gosh. Okay. So how do you, first, how do you go from working with your dad and interviewing Stephen Hawking to becoming like the preeminent UFO documentarian?
So funny, I've talked about this in the past because my father used to always say to me, he was a quadriplegic with MS, and so very early on I was kind of his legs, his secretary, his physical therapist, his chauffeur. And he had to continue working because that's what he did, and he had to travel because that's what he did. So I was his leg. So I got very early on, I was driving like 11 years old, but I got to go and meet some of the subjects. And he had a wide range of stuff that he would do. And oftentimes he would want to like meet somebody. So he'd make up a story idea, propose it to various, you know, news organizations and get approval. And we could travel on, you know, expense, you know, expense paid travel, whatever.
And, but he always said, say to me, son, you know, whatever you want to do in life, I support it fully. I don't care if you want to be a janitor or a lawyer, you know, that's, that's what matters that you're happy. And, And then when he found out that I was going to look into UFOs, I was in my mid-20s, he was so concerned about my future. And he was like, there's nothing to it. It's a dead end street. Don't waste your life. He was pleading with me not to do it. Like not only that, but he had members because I was born in England. A lot of my family lives in England and then they married French men and Italian people or whatever. They're scattered across Europe. And he had them writing me letters. Your father's very concerned.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is discussed at the start of this section?
0:00–6:53
2
What significant findings did James Fox uncover in the Varginha incident?
6:53–8:16
3
How did James Fox transition from journalism to UFO documentaries?
8:16–1:05:13
4
What were the initial UFO sightings reported in January 1996?
1:05:13–1:06:05
5
What evidence supports the claims of a creature encounter in Varginha?
1:06:05–1:06:53
6
How did the U.S. military become involved in the Varginha incident?
1:06:53–2:13:25
7
What experiences led to James Fox's fascination with UFOs?
2:13:25–2:16:02
8
What new evidence is emerging about the Varginha incident?
2:16:02–3:13:52
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