Nikita Hand: Not the Perfect Victim
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What is the opening introduction and weekly news roundup for this episode?
Welcome back to the Women's Podcast. I'm Rosheen Ingall. Hope you're all doing well. And if you want to get in touch with us, we are as always on social at IT Women's Podcast or you can email us thewomen's podcast at IrishTimes.com and do hit the subscribe button as well. It all helps us. Now in a moment, we're gonna be hearing from a woman I think so many of us are in awe of for her bravery. It's Nikita Hand.
I c I'm the type of person again that you know, if something was done really, really wrong, I just think people should be held accountable. I wasn't gonna let this person win, you know, after what he done to me, you know, that way. So I knew I had to do everything in my power to try get some sort of justice. And again I was doing it for other victims and I was doing it for my daughter, you know, to grow up again, to have a voice and not to be afraid to use it.
That was Nikita Hand there and she spoke to me about her book Not the Perfect Victim which launches this week. But first Irish Times opinion editor Jennifer O'Connell is here with some of the stories of the week. Jennifer O'Connell, it's lovely to have you back. We've got um a lot to talk about, but we're
a voice in my ear all week.
We'll get on to that YouTube podcast. Drummers Seeks Musicians, the making of YouTube. Just a little plug.
Such a good listen. Yeah. Stay with us 'cause we'll come back to it at the end.
We will. But we're gonna go through some stories of the week first, including some news about the three day wait for abortions, which is really important and something we've talked a lot about on the podcast.
Yeah, we have. And you and I spoke about it here um just a few months ago when Sinn Fein brought a a bill trying to end the mandatory three day wait. So at the moment if you go to a GP and you're looking for an abortion, you have to wait seventy two hours before you can go ahead with it. And as we discussed here, I think the last time, for the vast majority of women, that's probably not an issue. They know early enough, they're organized enough, they make the appointment with their GP and then they go away um they wait for three days. And then they go ahead with it. Now, when I say it's not an issue, it's probably not a practical issue. I imagine that there's a psychological toll that's taken when you're sort of you're pregnant.
You have already decided you don't want to be pregnant. So just prolonging the the kind of the the period when you're in limbo, when the pregnancy is continuing, you've already decided you want to end it. And I I'm sure that in most cases women would like to just get on with it more quickly. Yeah, and that's sort of Yeah, and it was sort of
I always felt there was like this infantilizing thing of, you know, are you sure now you need to go off? I think if someone's presenting and saying I mean from my experience, when you've decided, you've decided, you've thought it through, you've done all that thing. When you go to actually say it out loud that that's what you want, you're ready to go down that road and to be sort of having that three day thing it's just yeah
It's a little bit like, you know, I mean, we we we talked so much around the time of the repeal referendum about the importance of trusting women. And this is a little bit like trust women, but not yet. Not fully. You know, just let like leave that little room, that little sliver of doubt. But the other side of it is that for for some women, it is more than just a psychological burden. It is actually a practical one. And that was addressed at an EROCTIS committee hearing. So what's happening is that the Sinn Fein. Bill passed the second stage in the dual by a narrow enough 86 votes to 70 back in June. And what was really interesting about it was that a majority of Fina Foal and Fina Gael TDs voted against the bill.
But it was supported by some of the kind of more prominent ones, like Teachog Mihal Martin supported it, uh Tony Stiff Simon Harris supported it, and Jennifer Carol McNeil supported it as well. But now it's going before an Eroctus committee who
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the opening introduction and weekly news roundup for this episode?
0:15–11:33
2
How does the podcast transition from the news segment to the interview with Nikita Hand?
11:33–19:58
3
What was Nikita Hand’s life like before the December 2018 incident?
19:58–27:35
4
How does Nikita describe the assault that changed her life?
27:35–38:17
5
What legal steps did Nikita take after the assault and how did the civil case unfold?
38:17–48:13
6
What happened during the house invasion and how did it affect her case?
48:13–57:04
7
How did Nikita feel about the trial verdict and the media reaction afterward?
57:04–1:06:05
8
What advice does Nikita give to survivors and what are her plans for the future?
1:06:05–1:09:27
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