You know that part of a project where it looks like total chaos and you start questioning all your life choices? Yeah… that part. We’re going there.In this episode, muralist & lettering artist Olga Muzician and furniture flipper-turned-content creator Lauren Hull join hosts Annie and Lauren to talk about the not-so-glamorous side of creative beginnings; the flops, the freak-outs, and the surprisingly sweet moments that come from sticking it out. If you’ve ever cried mid-project, painted over something five times, or stared at your work thinking “what am I even doing?” - this one’s for you.Olga Muzician – Muralist and lettering artist behind Olga Muzician Studio, known for bold color, natural elements, and large-scale work that brings walls and spaces to life. Follow: Instagram, TikTokLauren Hull – Creator of Furniture Flipping Teacher, where she turns everyday pieces into teaching moments and helps others build confidence (and income) through creative flipping and DIY design. Follow: Facebook, YouTube, TikTok, InstagramZibra’s New “Bundle & Save” Sets: Zibra just launched three curated brush bundles designed for real-world creators, whether you’re refinishing furniture, cutting trim, or painting large-scale walls. Detail Bundle - Precision for edges and fine workWalls & Trim Bundle - Coverage and control for big projectsFurniture Flipping Bundle - Every refinisher’s essential toolkitExplore them at enjoyzibra.com and use code BANTER10 for 10% off.In this episode, we discuss:The ugly phase every artist goes through (and why it’s actually essential)Why tears, frustration, and fear are part of the creative process - and how to push through themThe small wins and big breakthroughs that happen when you don’t quitAdvice they wish they had when they were just getting startedWelcome to Brush & Banter—the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio. Connect with Zibra: Website Instagram TikTok Facebook YouTube Blog

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