Session 119: Kacey Musgraves
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How does the episode open and introduce Kacey Musgraves?
Hi, do you want to touch my crystal? Yeah. It gets rid of, it encourages trust and builds positivity and exerts healthy emotional release. Okay. You need that. I don't know if I want that. Wait, you totally need that.
Well, we have Kacey Musgraves on the show today.
Yay, that's our fave. Did you just buy this? Yesterday. I was crying and I walked into a crystal shop. You're not well. No. I'm really not. Are you okay? No, I'm really not. Why? I don't know. I've just been twisted up here.
Why?
It's not seamless, like of many things.
You're just depressed.
Majorly.
Well, maybe.
It's time to start meds again.
Yep. I've been screaming it from the rooftop for months.
No, I took meds for like five years and then I stopped.
Well, because Wellbutrin was giving you a panic attack.
It was making me so anxious.
But that's, I'm pretty sure that's like a common thing people have. Really? Yes. My psychiatrist is trying to give it to me.
Well, it's like a stimulant.
So you're the, why would you need that?
Right. So it just like wasn't helping my anxiety at all. So.
I'm pretty sure it's for depression.
Yeah. I mean, you can treat it for both. And I have both. So.
But.
So I stopped. I mean, nobody hears about this. And then I'm going to, I'm going to have to start again soon because I'm just like, whoo. You're not well. It's bumpy.
Yeah. But I'm on Luvox. What's that? It's for OCD. I think you have that, by the way.
You think I have OCD?
You think about the same thing consistently and you can't drop it.
But I don't have like rituals like you.
Well, it can manifest in different ways.
What personal struggles and mental health topics does Kacey discuss early on?
Right. I probably have everything, honestly.
Probably. Give it to me all. What's your favorite KC song?
Well, I have to think about it.
You love Butterflies.
Love Butterflies, love Space Cowboy. Space Cowboy.
You showed me that one.
I showed you Space Cowboy. You showed me Space Cowboy.
I think Space Cowboy.
Or you like re-brought it to my life.
I think that's my, right now, that's my favorite.
But like Rainbow. Oh, you love Rainbow. Like Rainbow was the best.
I talked to her.
And Justified. I like that song.
Oh, you love Justified. Do you remember when we listened to Deeper Well in the backyard? In the backyard.
What is that other one we love? Come to me and drop your bags. What's like You'll Be Fine?
And I'll help you unpack. Nothing to be scared of.
But what's the other one?
You're the architect.
We love the architect.
Because Casey just like really is so.
She just says things and you're like, damn, yeah. That's what I told her.
Really?
Yes.
Like she just says it's so simple and you're like, wow. Because she, I said, I think she was put on this earth to like just write about the world.
Right. And like the simple things that like you're like, oh, damn. Never thought about that.
She makes the simple things so extraordinary.
Deeper Wall is like the best song I've ever heard in my life.
Yeah, it's.
Like when that came out and you were like, put it on right now in the car. I was like.
I think Casey writes like as if it's a Bible for how to live life.
A thousand percent. Merry-go-round is the greatest song of all time.
The greatest wordplay of all time.
Like of all time. Trish showed me that song.
Trish loves Casey.
Years and years and years ago. Yeah, it's just so good.
Which of Kacey’s songs and albums do the hosts praise and why?
We have to see her on tour.
Have to.
Okay, so I'm obsessed with Happier Grocer.
Really?
Yeah.
What do you get there?
Chicken? The gluten-free turkey wrap.
Oh.
I have it every single day.
I still, by the way, like I know that I grew up here and like I've lived here now for like eight months. I have no idea where I am ever. Have you had the smoothies from Happier? No. Are they good? Yeah. Kennedy really likes them. I've only had one once. Which? You know what you need to try?
What?
Tom's juice.
Really?
It's that fucking good.
What do they have?
And you like juice, by the way. You always want juice.
What do they have? What do they have?
Am I wrong? Like, don't you always want, like, some type of refreshing drink?
No, what do they have? Okay. But, like, do they have snacks?
No, just juice.
Nothing else? No food?
Just juice.
What do you get?
The store is the size of this table.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
How does the episode open and introduce Kacey Musgraves?
0:11–1:51
2
What personal struggles and mental health topics does Kacey discuss early on?
1:51–3:22
3
Which of Kacey’s songs and albums do the hosts praise and why?
3:22–28:31
4
How does Kacey describe her songwriting process and inspiration from everyday life?
28:31–41:39
5
Why did Kacey release 'Follow Your Arrow' despite label concerns?
41:39–58:08
6
How does Kacey explain attachment styles and how they inform her relationships and songs?
58:08–1:15:32
7
What UFO and alien sightings does Kacey share and how does she feel about disclosure?
1:15:32–1:20:18