Session 122: Marisa Abela

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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

Jake Shane 0:12
Are you ready? Yeah. Marisa Bella is here. Yay. I mean, no introduction needed on my end.
Marisa Abela 0:22
Yeah. Well, I think for a little bit.
Jake Shane 0:25
She plays Yaz in the best show on television. I'll die by that. Industry on HBO. And I have been an industry fan since COVID.
Marisa Abela 0:35
That's great.
Jake Shane 0:36
Yeah. We've talked about this. And it took people a minute to catch on.
Marisa Abela 0:40
Like yesterday.
Jake Shane 0:41
Yeah.
Marisa Abela 0:42
Yeah.
Jake Shane 0:43
Unfortunately, this episode is going to contain spoilers because I do need to talk about it all.
Marisa Abela 0:46
I think so. Also, I think by this point, it's too much to be like, no, spoil it. You've got to get watching it now.
Jake Shane 0:55
The character development of Yaz.
Marisa Abela 0:58
Yeah.
Jake Shane 0:59
Reminds me of Daenerys in Game of Thrones.
Marisa Abela 1:01
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Jake Shane 1:02
Kind of, right?
Marisa Abela 1:03
Yeah, totally.
Jake Shane 1:03
You want her to win so bad. What the fuck is going on?
Marisa Abela 1:07
I know. I mean, also, especially if we rewind to the beginning of season one, like, this is a girl walking in carrying salads, super vulnerable, super scared, getting bullied at work, not sure if she's, like, ever going to be able to say anything, like, boo to a goose. And suddenly... Like, we're here.
Jake Shane 1:26
I just feel like she gets screwed over. What was it? The end of season one was Harper screwing her over with the HR complaint.
Marisa Abela 1:32
Yeah.
Jake Shane 1:33
Season two. How did season two? Season two.
Marisa Abela 1:36
Season two, her father cut her off.
Jake Shane 1:38
Right.
Marisa Abela 1:39
Yeah. So she's left with, she has no money. Right. At the end of season two and she's locked out of her apartment. She's like fiddling with her keys and she's locked out of her apartment. Her father's cut her off. So then season three, she's living with Harper and Rob. Oh, I miss Rob. I know. I know. Me too. I miss him.

How has Yaz’s character evolved from season 1 to season 4 and what turning points shaped her?

Marisa Abela 1:54
She's such a soft, gooey, gushy part of the show that now doesn't exist.
Jake Shane 1:58
I mean, that season three finale, I honestly might rewatch it tonight just to feel something.
Marisa Abela 2:04
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also because I think, I mean, there are so many turning points for Yasmin. Like, so many turning points for who she, like, for the evolution of, like, the woman that we see now in front of us at the end of season four. That's a big one. Yeah. At the end of season three, that choice. Yeah. That choice that she makes.
Jake Shane 2:23
That defines the rest of her.
Marisa Abela 2:25
It totally does. Right? She makes a choice and she's like, I want that. And then obviously what if season four happens, but. I was saying as well, I think the biggest turning point for Yasmin as a character actually is there's a moment in season two where there's a character, Kenny, the Northern Irish. Yeah. Yeah. Connor McNeil is like one of my favorite people on the planet. He's so good. And he comes up and she's in a meeting and he says something to her about the fact that I can't believe you would let this happen to Venetia. And he bullied her for the whole of season one. And Yasmin goes in and for the first time, we see like the gun finger come out and her being like, who the fuck? Oh, I remember on the trading floor, right?
Marisa Abela 3:08
Yeah. And like she, I think that's, that was a moment that I think Mickey and Kawhi, the writers were like, oh, Marisa could be like a gangster. I don't know about where she's going, but 100%, I think what Mickey and Kawhi were like, were thinking was, where how far can we push the audience's allegiances you know like this is a woman who has also the amazing thing about television as like a long form art form i guess is you have years to live with the character so we're not asking people to jump in after like 20 minutes of exposition and being like and this is how like right someone comes to these decisions we're saying You've seen everything that happened to her, for her, about her, for like the last five years.
Marisa Abela 3:53
This is the culmination of all of those things. How do you feel now?
Jake Shane 3:58
And it's like... Okay, so the thing about me is I'm a little stupid in the head. So I actually didn't understand what was going on in season four. Like I understood that Harper and Eric... we're short, we're betting on the loss of... Yeah, tender. Of tender.
Marisa Abela 4:17
Betting on tender losing. That's like, that's what you need to know.
Jake Shane 4:20
Right. Okay, great.
Marisa Abela 4:21
That's what I... You got it.
Jake Shane 4:22
100%. Because I was like, wait, I feel like I'm... But then how...

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