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This American Life

852: Pivot Point

19 Jan 2025

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39.618 - 53.942 Ira Glass

When Kirk and his wife MJ evacuated their house in LA on the second day of the fires, they could see the flames up the hill from their backyard. They packed the car full, got their seven and eight year old kids inside with a family cat, hit the road. And Kirk started recording.

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55.583 - 57.123 Kirk Johnson

Okay, now I know it's scary.

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58.158 - 62.5 August

Did this happen when mommy or daddy was little?

62.92 - 67.921 Ira Glass

He records his kids a lot and just had a feeling like this is an important moment.

67.961 - 77.545 Child (Unnamed)

Can we just turn on to like a song by the Beatles? Sure. Not rock band, okay? Sure. Not like we're the kings. I don't really want to listen to rock.

77.585 - 79.065 Kirk Johnson

Okay, but let me, can I just say something?

79.145 - 88.193 Child (Unnamed)

I don't really want to listen to rock music when Kirk is Kirk Johnson.

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