You've spent the last decade taking classes, honing your craft, meeting all the right people...so, when's it going to be your name up there on the marquee? This week, the THTR GRLZ tackle a question from a listener who's heartbroken that she hasn't made it to Broadway yet. Send us your questions! We want to hear from you. You can email us (preferably with a voice memo) at: [email protected] GRLZ is a theatre advice podcast hosted by Broadway besties/professional anxiety-havers Barrett Wilbert Weed (Mean Girls, Heathers) and Rachel Schur (Chicago, Jersey Boys).
Chapter 1: What is the main theme of the episode about pursuing Broadway dreams?
Calling all theater girls, gays, and bays. Don't scroll past, just go press play. We'll answer questions as best as we can answer them. We are here to stay. Arise, theater girls, bays, and gays. Hey. It's us.
The theater girls. Yeah. Hi. Welcome. I don't know what's happening to me today, but I'm like extra excited. Maybe because my Celsius just kicked in.
Oh, I definitely think it's because your Celsius just kicked in. She's running laps, people. She's running laps around the room. Welcome to Theater Girls. Welcome. It's us. Hi. We are Theater Girls. You are Theater Girls.
We're here to try to help and entertain.
For the she's, gays, and they's. Wow. Thanks. I love it. So you know the drill. You ask us questions. We try to answer them with some real honesty and spunk. We're trying to give you what you need. Yeah.
And sometimes the delivery is going to be soft and sometimes it's going to be crunchy. It might be crunchy or smooth.
Yeah. But delicious either way. We're either in Nature's Valley Bar or one of those like really gooey cinnamon like Pop-Tarts that you didn't put in the toaster. Yeah. A raw Pop-Tart. Yeah. Both delicious. Okay, sick. How are you doing? Are you good? I'm honestly... Do you need to do some jumping jacks? I'm great.
No, I think I'm directing my ya-ya's at the right place.
Raise your ya-ya.
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Chapter 2: How does Haley describe her journey in the theater industry?
I don't want to speak for her, but I think that meeting my dad was a really amazing thing for her. And she really fell in love and they moved to a very small town and raised a family. And she was able to, you know, open a dance studio. And were there times when I was growing up and I saw my mom maybe... Thinking or daydreaming about kind of what if, definitely. That definitely happened.
And I think my inner motor was like, never me. I will never be the person that will ever regret or ever look back. And then now becoming an adult and realizing like, of course I will. Because there will always be things that human beings will want to, you know, achieve and maybe not. And I do think I want to speak on one thing.
Because I have so many things you and I both could say about this question. I know. The number one thing for me is I really see myself a lot in this question. I'm sure so many people do. You know, when I moved here, I really wanted to be in the cool kids club. I wanted to be at the cool kids table. I wanted to be part of, like, the young energy.
You know, when I moved here, it was all these kind of hot pop and pop rock musicals, and everyone was blonde. It felt like every single lead in every musical was blonde.
Everyone was the whitest woman you've ever seen.
So blonde.
With, like, eight-foot-long legs.
Yeah. Everyone was just... I just... And so hot. Yeah. Flat tummy. I mean, you name it. And I really wanted to be part of the cool kids' table. I mean, I dyed my hair blonde at one point. You know, I really... It looked good.
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Chapter 3: What advice do the hosts give about waiting for opportunities?
No, that's exactly right. But yeah, I mean, I think I only brought that up because there's nothing wrong with wanting to be on Broadway. There's nothing wrong with having a goal and having this life goal. There's nothing wrong with pursuing that. where the issues come up.
And I'm trying to like, I'm trying to put this in context, like trying to speak for myself so that I'm not just like criticizing somebody whose journey is different from mine. But like, it does make me want to cry. I'm just like thinking about her sweet voice. Don't cry, you got this. I know, I know.
My motivations for wanting to be specifically an actor are really dramatically different from, I think, most people I know. I'm not a dancer. I decided to major in musical theater not because I am obsessed with musicals and want to just only do musicals and be on Broadway and that whole thing, which nothing wrong with that, but... I decided to major in musical theater because I wanted to study.
I was thinking of it like a double major. I wanted to study vocal performance and drama. That's what I wanted. And then I got to school and I was like, oh, this is real different. That's not. Yeah. There's a lot going on here. But yeah.
I mean, I was really, really lucky to end up at an arts high school where, I mean, it's still the happiest time of my life to date was being at that school because the goal that we were all working toward as kids was to learn how to act, learn the nuts and bolts of what acting is. And part of learning the nuts and bolts of what acting is, is learning that, like, art is all kinds of art.
Every medium is essential to a functioning society. And being able to use acting as an artistic medium to put ideas and performances and use yourself as the vehicle for nudging the needle forward socially That's my only goal. Yeah. And it's not about, oh, you could be happy doing... You could be happy doing this in a basement. You could be happy doing this in a garage. It's not about that.
I honestly probably couldn't. Like, I want to work to the best of my ability.
Yeah.
And I want to do that work. I want to present, like... I want to present an idea of a person, an idea of how... how empowered and powerful and magical a woman can be, I want people to see that. For sure. And I want people to see that in me. I firmly believe and I think that my purpose on Earth is to make people, but specifically women, feel better. Connected and seen, yeah. Or just better.
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Chapter 4: How can actors cope with feelings of heartbreak in their careers?
When I'm going to take a voice lesson, that's my higher purpose. My purpose is not about... It's not about Broadway. It's not about film. It's not about television. I honestly believe that this is what I was put on earth to do. And I do think I'm better at that specific job than most people are because I'm extremely passionate about it. Yes.
And I think having had that higher purpose from a super young age, it just comes from this feeling of being completely... ostracized and invisible which was my that was my experience in childhood and I think through my work all I'm ever trying to do is prevent as many people no matter what age they are prevent as many people from feeling that pain yeah as much as I possibly can so
I mean, my advice is super woo-woo, and it's just, like, what is the higher purpose here? Like, what is the goal that Haley can give herself to get herself out of this kind of, like, circuitous track of, like, if your only goal only is to be on Broadway and to have that achievement and to be in any show... Mm-hmm. Then girl keeps logging it out. Yeah.
And it's not about appealing to other people. It's about deciding what are you trying to say with your work and going into every class with a higher purpose. Even if that higher purpose is just I want to be on Broadway. That's your right. Yeah. While women still have rights in America, you better exercise your American rat to try to be on Broadway.
But let's just say, like... They have to choose you at a certain point. 100%. My mom used to say that. She was like, it's the go fish game.
100%.
Like, eventually, it will be you. Yes, if you can get your shit, if you can get all of your skills in earnest to a point where you are undeniable, you are undeniably awesome at something... And not like you feel good about it. You you feel like proud of yourself, but get your shit to a point where people cannot deny that you are good at this. Then all it is is showing up. Yeah.
Because eventually, like whoever would be in front of you in line is going to be booked on something and they're going to have to go to somebody new.
Or they just weren't it that day. Or they just sucked that day.
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Chapter 5: What insights are shared about the competitive nature of Broadway?
I just fucked that up.
All the girls were brilliant, right? It's like every singer-dancer you know and every triple threat was in this room.
Embarrassment of riches.
It was an embarrassment of riches and there was one girl that was going to get it that day. And they just went... Yeah, a little bit. They threw spaghetti at the wall. But... You know, I got to say, like, yes, it is an amazing achievement to be on Broadway. I would never, ever put that down or make anyone feel less about it.
But it has become, especially now, is this the Broadway we knew about growing up or we dreamed of growing up? No, it's very different now. And there's so much money on the line. It is...
you know, one movie musical after another, and there is some amazing, amazing, amazing work on Broadway, but there is also a lot of, like... There's a lot of speaking of throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. Yeah, and there's a lot of, like, repetition.
There's a lot of people, quote, trying things right now.
Yeah, and, you know, there's a lot of... Work that after, at the end of the day, it does become a day job. I think it was Alex Brightman had said it because they were asking about, it was either like School of Rock or Beetlejuice. And he was like, you know, he was kind of saying what you were saying, Bear, like my power, I want to go in and I want to do the thing.
And he's like, when I'm in these shows, was he in Wicked? He was talking about some show and he was like, I'll never forget this interview because it was so powerful. And he was like, after a while, it's a day job. And these people will stay in the day job for a long time. But like the magic's gone. Like the synergy is really hard to keep alive.
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Chapter 6: How important is it to have a higher purpose in acting?
And so. Honestly, dream role. Unbelievable. Are you kidding?
You're sitting down the whole time. Can you imagine? You're sitting. Rachel, look at my eyes. I know. You get to sit while you act. Well, first I have to be Charlotte.
I know. First I have to be Charlotte. We'll make it happen.
I want to be Charlotte, too.
We'll make it happen in some weird way. But listen, it's not going to end. I think if you look at this beautiful life that we have... and realize that the dream is to be an actor. And if you have made it in New York, in my opinion, making it in New York is going to an audition and getting a job. Yeah, I think if you've been paid to act...
Like, my mom talks about this all the time because she heard the statistic and it blew her mind. Oh, yeah.
It's terrifying for parents.
Yeah. But the NFL statistic, have you heard that? She was like, I don't think that you even know this thing that I heard the other day. It's easier to get into the NFL. Yeah. Of course it is. She said, it is something I don't, I'm going to, I'm not even going to try. X amount of times easier to be a professional football player for the NFL than it is to be on Broadway, be in a Broadway show.
Which. And I was like, I believe that.
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Chapter 7: What are the benefits of pursuing theater outside of Broadway?
Every single, the revolving door spits you back out and you get right back in and keep going and keep going. Because they have to, if that is really true, if your skill set is undeniable and you're working on it all the time and you're making sure that you are top of your game, best in the biz, they have no, I can't believe I used best in the biz unironically. Best in the biz.
Are you standing on business?
I'm standing on business. They have to pick you eventually.
They do. And I do think one last one last thing is like keep asking yourself why. Because, you know, if it's ask yourself every day to because like why we're doing this. My dream show was like or dream was just like to be in Chicago or to be do play some kind of weird funny woman. OK. That always was part of, like, my little manifestation.
Even when I was, like, 10, I didn't even know what I was doing in my little brain. But, like, I think that when I moved to New York, I got completely sidetracked with that. So, like, keep asking yourself why. If it's just to be on Broadway, why? Why? Because you want validation from who. Like, you have to really deeply, deeply ask those questions and talk it out.
It does not feel... Most of the time, like, I mean, you said you have one, you get one good week, like in Broadway shows. I think that I got exceptionally lucky, especially with Mean Girls, where we got, I think I got a good six months where it was a nonstop party the whole freaking time. And we had a revolving door of like my favorite funny celebrities coming to see the show every single day.
Yeah, I'm sure Hamilton was the same way. Is huge. Yeah. And it's not something that you're taught in school how to handle that or how to handle, like, what comes after that.
Well, the good news is, like, I'm here to tell you, like, doesn't matter. All of it comes after. Life comes... It keeps happening. Yes. And, you know, I don't know if... I mean... Yeah. I think that... Broadway in New York pays the bills more than any other theater. Yes. And that is important. That's an important thing to say. You do get paid a premium, as you should. As you should.
Because you know what? It's really fucking hard. Yep. It's a really fucking hard job. And it's no joke. And I think that if you are fulfilled doing work and feeling good about yourself as an artist... You're you're so far ahead of the game because there are people on Broadway that maybe don't have that kind of higher purpose that just want to show up, dance their little jig and go home.
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Chapter 8: How can actors prioritize their joy and fulfillment in their careers?
I want to know why, specifically why it's breaking your heart. And when she got to the point where she was like, I don't think I'm willing to wait anymore. Well, don't. Yeah. Protect your heart. If this thing that you love is breaking your heart and making you miserable, it's time to really consider... what we're doing here. Yeah.
And I, I do think that you don't get that much time on earth. I think you will look back and, and realize that spending a lot of time focusing on one thing to make happen and, and it's making you stress and it's breaking your heart and maybe making you even physically sick. Hurting you. It, It's time. It's like a bad relationship.
Most people are going to say, hey, maybe just like give it a break for a minute. And I think there's power in that because I took a break for a second. I'm taking a break kind of right now. And you know what? It's okay because I'm going to play the old lady in a little night musical. I'll make sure of it.
I don't know how. I don't know how, but we will make it happen. So Haley and all theater girls, we want you to be happy first and foremost.
Work and healthy. On finding balance and joy. And don't put Broadway as the only way to bring you that.
Yeah. And we love you so much. Like, we love you. Prioritize your joy and your sanity.
Well, that's it, theater girls. That's it for today. We really, really appreciate that genuine heartfelt question. Thank you. And we hope we answered it as best as we could. Ask us more stuff. Yeah, we like it.
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