“I saw evidence that really challenged everything that I knew”Ilan Pappe shares how he came across historical documents back in 1978 that debunked Zionist myths and set him off on his journey to becoming an Israeli dissident, why what is going on in Gaza is a ‘genocide’ that is much worse than the Nakba of 1948, and why he thinks Zionism is near its end.Episode Outline00:00 Introduction00:30 What was the Nakba?04:23 Zionist fabrications around the Nakba09:15 Gaza compared to 1948 Nakba12:12 Why did you decide to study the Nakba14:34 Meeting Palestinian academics17:00 False assumptions I took for granted19:07 How did you approach the documents21:10 how I became secure in my work and my findings21:45 being forced out of Haifa University24:40 life in Israel as a dissident27:30 Getting sh*t parcels in the mail29:30 Observations on Israeli society becoming racist32:30 The Israeli education system indoctrinating a new society36:25 Israel's ruthlessness in Gaza now38:30 Gaza a strategic challenge to Zionist project40:15 What happens in Gaza now43:30 What Israel is doing now will lead to a strategic loss for Israel45:00 Reasons why Zionism will come to an endUNAPOLOGETIC is hosted by Ashfaaq CarimRecorded on the 22nd February 2024Middle East Eye Website: https://middleeasteye.net

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