Ep 1258 | Phyllis Revisits Phil’s Past, His First Words to Her & the Healing They Found Together
episodePreviously titled “Ep 1258 | How Phil Faced His Past With Daughter Phyllis: “I Never Knew”” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 3, 2026
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How did Phil's passing impact the Robertson family during duck season?
I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashamed. Jace, I got a question for you. So it's, by the time this episode drops, we'll be probably right at the very end of duck season this year. And we've been talking, you know, a lot about hunts and, you know, ducks coming or not coming, as it were. And this season started, with uh kind of a call to arms i guess we had uh after dad crossed over back in uh right before memorial day uh last year in 25 that we were gonna the brothers were gonna hunt together which we did and it was great because it was kind of a um i guess an homage to dad you know just to kind of
What values did Phil Robertson instill in his family through hard work?
Say, you know, we're here on opening day because you're not here. So whatever his experiences are crossed over, we don't know. But you killed a band of duck. Yeah, my first duck, which has never happened. So that made me kind of chuckle. Yeah, and it just kind of gave us that thing. So I got my question for you because we got a guest coming on a little bit later. So we're going to be talking quite a bit today about about dad, about legacy, about a lot of things that he brought to us. And obviously our kind of family tagline was Faith Family Ducks, you know, especially when the show came along in that order, you know, dad used to say. And what I just want to know from you, like, so now we're ending the first complete season without dad being there.
How did Phyllis share her story with the world?
What's that been like to you? I mean, do you do you Does his, kind of like with this podcast, does the presence of him come up often? Do you think about him?
Do you quote him? Yeah, I've thought about him every day just because we had this weird phenomenon because we pump our water in in low water years from the Ouachita River. But what happened was, and I've shared this before, we had a series of unfortunate events come together and We had an extremely dry year, but they also dropped our river down from pool stage. They call it pool stage because that means this is as low as it goes. Until they decide, the government, to drop it down seven feet lower because they need to work on some locks and dams so barges can traffic the river. And so when those things happen, we could no longer pump water
What significance do the words 'I never knew' hold in Phil's relationship with Phyllis?
from the river because we pumped from an offshoot creek of the river. Well, that just put it where it was unpumpable. There's no water. I mean, a little bit, what little we did pump, we dried the creek up. And so I thought every day, I mean, he would have never, he would have been so frustrated
How does trauma influence forgiveness and healing later in life?
That it just won't rain and we can't get any water because my dad, he pretty well hunted every day of duck season every year for how many years?
60. Yeah. 65 years.
The couple times, just think about it, duck season is 60 days. Now, there was a period it was 30 days. a season, but he pretty well hunted every day.
In what ways does telling the truth lead to restoration?
And so there was only a couple of times I remember where he got so sick that he could not put one foot in front of the other. But even then he shuffled out there where he could hear whether we were shooting or not from his porch. And one of those days was famous because we hammered him. And he said, it's the first time in my life that I almost cried. Laughter
What insights does Phyllis offer about her journey of healing?
You know, it was just hard for him. But I will say this year has also, you know, Willie from our first hunt this year, it kind of ignited a resurgence in his duck hunting practices. He's gone more this year than he has in the last year. 30 combined. So I thought that was interesting. And maybe it is just that kind of nostalgic passing down the legacy. But yeah, I quote him often because I miss him. And it's been weird without him. And I've missed more days this year. that I've ever missed just because we simply have no ducks and traveled a lot.
Well, and I thought about it because he couldn't really – he wouldn't have imagined, although he was good at adapting and reacting, but he wouldn't imagine not being able to pump water out of the river because the river was the one constant, right, as long as you've been out there. Now, he expected it to come out of his banks but not to go below pool, and so that would have been a whole new experience for him.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
How did Phil's passing impact the Robertson family during duck season?
0:01–0:51
2
What values did Phil Robertson instill in his family through hard work?
0:51–1:39
3
How did Phyllis share her story with the world?
1:39–2:41
4
What significance do the words 'I never knew' hold in Phil's relationship with Phyllis?
2:41–3:06
5
How does trauma influence forgiveness and healing later in life?
3:06–3:32
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In what ways does telling the truth lead to restoration?
3:32–4:03
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What insights does Phyllis offer about her journey of healing?
4:03–50:41
Speakers
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Ep 1422 | Miss Kay Gets Emotional Over a Taste of the Robertson Family’s Past
Ep 1421 | Carlos & Alexa PenaVega Open Up to the Robertsons About How Loss Changed Them Forever