Ep 996 | Jase Faces Down the Church Police & What to Do About Baptizing Infants
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I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashamed. Zach, your new podcast is out there. It's pretty awesome. It's out there.
Tuesday was the day. It's doing really well.
Oh, so you've already done your first podcast?
Oh, yeah.
Are you doing this? I have to ask this. Are you just doing this by yourself? No.
No, I have. I'm going to bring you on an episode or two because this is a deeper dive, okay? Zach loves point counterpoint.
I don't like to argue. There's a passage that says, stay away from foolish arguments and controversial things over genealogy.
No genealogies, no controversies and quarrels about the law, none of that. But it is a little bit of a – it's a little less storytelling and a little more Bible. And you're having Jace on?
Oh, here we go.
Hold on. Jace sends me a John Tyson. A couple weeks ago, Jace sends me a John Tyson sermon, which was 55 minutes long. So Jace is listening to the kind of content that I'm talking about interacting with.
Well, y'all said we were going to talk about politics. We did. So I thought – Here, I heard this sermon here. I mean, I'm just, I don't, I'm not a political.
But you're saying that you were surprised that he was listening to Tyson. That's what you're saying. He reads and listens to things that I might. No, Jace is going the route that dad trained us all. He said, boys, you can always be smarter than you look and you can do a lot more, but you can't go the other direction.
Well, now that we've just opened up this can, let me... Here's my deal.
After the argument y'all started on the last podcast, I felt like we had to... It wasn't an argument.
It was a discussion. It was a discussion. Well, look, the last podcast we had on Colossians, when we got to Colossians 2, which, look, the book of Colossians, like all of the other books, is about... Jesus. It is highlighting Jesus.
What insights does Zach have about his new podcast?
And look, we really did a poor job when we got to Colossians 2 of getting, and myself included, the point is these people were being tempted to go back under the system of of Judaism which what's a good practical definition for that for the people who are new to the faith they were trying to go the old covenant the old system yeah because these this verbiage in Colossians that says, you know, see to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy. This is Colossians 2, 8, which depends on human traditions and the basic elements of this world rather than on Christ. Well, that's the point.
And I sound like, James, we did a pretty good job. One thing we did a good job on was showing that even under the old system, From God's perspective, from Jesus' perspective, because he's always been, he is, he was always in the system. They just didn't recognize it. They didn't realize it. And then many missed it even when he came, which is what he's trying to talk about here in these letters.
Well, what I was going to say about opening up the can, I was going to say, I always say, I mainly, 95% of the study I put in is in the Bible. I'd say 95%. And even when people speak, I'm not a big fan of quoting other people that they don't have their name in the Bible. They're like, so-and-so said, I've never heard of so-and-so. And it's like a Bible verse that comes on the screen. And I'm like, what if he's wrong? That's my take on it. And I don't like making categories, which is where me and Zach argue a lot, over taking a Greek word, the New Testament was written in Greek, and then making like eschatology. Because I think most people don't use that in their everyday language, which is talking about what happens in the end, the end of times.
And so I'm like – But Zach's making big words great again. Well, I know.
I'm always a little careful of that because I feel like that becomes something – like the rapture. I've talked about that before. People say, what do you think about the rapture? And I'm like, well, I don't think that word's in the Bible. Boy, people, you don't have a fit when you say that. They're like, well, it means called up, and they go to 1 Thessalonians 4.
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