Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 996 | Jase Faces Down the Church Police & What to Do About Baptizing Infants
Thu, 21 Nov 2024
Jase has a bone to pick with the so-called “church police,” and Zach is shocked to find that Jase might be ready to embrace the big words movement. The guys address infant baptism and what it means later in life, and Jase succumbs to the lure of philosophical discussion. -- Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What are the hosts discussing in this episode?
I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashamed. Zach, your new podcast is out there. It's pretty awesome. It's out there.
Tuesday was the day. It's doing really well.
Oh, so you've already done your first podcast?
Oh, yeah.
Are you doing this? I have to ask this. Are you just doing this by yourself? No.
No, I have. I'm going to bring you on an episode or two because this is a deeper dive, okay? Zach loves point counterpoint.
I don't like to argue. There's a passage that says, stay away from foolish arguments and controversial things over genealogy.
No genealogies, no controversies and quarrels about the law, none of that. But it is a little bit of a – it's a little less storytelling and a little more Bible. And you're having Jace on?
Oh, here we go.
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Chapter 2: What insights does Zach have about his new podcast?
And look, we really did a poor job when we got to Colossians 2 of getting, and myself included, the point is these people were being tempted to go back under the system of of Judaism which what's a good practical definition for that for the people who are new to the faith they were trying to go the old covenant the old system yeah because these this verbiage in Colossians
that says, you know, see to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy. This is Colossians 2, 8, which depends on human traditions and the basic elements of this world rather than on Christ. Well, that's the point.
And I sound like, James, we did a pretty good job. One thing we did a good job on was showing that even under the old system, From God's perspective, from Jesus' perspective, because he's always been, he is, he was always in the system. They just didn't recognize it. They didn't realize it. And then many missed it even when he came, which is what he's trying to talk about here in these letters.
Well, what I was going to say about opening up the can, I was going to say, I always say, I mainly, 95% of the study I put in is in the Bible. I'd say 95%. And even when people speak, I'm not a big fan of quoting other people that they don't have their name in the Bible. They're like, so-and-so said, I've never heard of so-and-so. And it's like a Bible verse that comes on the screen.
And I'm like, what if he's wrong? That's my take on it. And I don't like making categories, which is where me and Zach argue a lot, over taking a Greek word, the New Testament was written in Greek, and then making like eschatology. Because I think most people don't use that in their everyday language, which is talking about what happens in the end, the end of times.
And so I'm like – But Zach's making big words great again. Well, I know.
I'm always a little careful of that because I feel like that becomes something – like the rapture. I've talked about that before. People say, what do you think about the rapture? And I'm like, well, I don't think that word's in the Bible. Boy, people, you don't have a fit when you say that. They're like, well, it means called up, and they go to 1 Thessalonians 4.
But my underlying joke there, which they don't think is funny, is I'm like, always be careful when you take an issue, make it something kind of separate from the Bible that has all these legs and tentacles to it based on whichever denominational group.
Basically, you're saying don't rupture over the rapture.
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