In this episode, I sit down with therapist and author Ilene Fishman to explore what it really takes to achieve lasting recovery. We dive into the complex, sometimes uncomfortable truths about healing from an eating disorder, the importance of self-compassion, and why true freedom goes beyond simply "eating normally." Ilene V. Fishman, LCSW, ACSW, FAED, has maintained a general psychotherapy practice specializing in the treatment of eating disorders for more than 40 years in both Montclair, NJ and New York City. Ilene helped found NEDA, serving on its Board of Directors for over a decade. She then served on the board of ProjectHEAL. Ilene speaks widely as an expert on the subject of eating disorders and is the author of the book, THE DEEPER FIX. Note: The podcast is off for the next two weeks! We will be back on April 22nd, with a new episode! Tweetable Quotes "I don't wanna keep people comfortable. People will talk about, 'Oh that therapist was so nice, she was such a nice person.' But did you get better?" - Ilene Fishman "If we avoid our pain. If we don't suffer constructively, productively, then we're blocking ourselves." - Ilene Fishman "Tell your therapist everything. Try to find a therapist where you can say, 'I'm afraid to start therapy with you, and these are the reasons I'm afraid.' Let's talk about it." - Ilene Fishman "It's about taking the risk and being afraid and not really knowing what's gonna be on the other side and doing it with somebody who's gonna, who's gonna hopefully catch you, but that you need to do it scared." - Rachelle Heinemann "Good therapy should be growthful and empowering." - Ilene Fishman "Recovery is so worth it." - Ilene Fishman Resources Connect with Ilene Fishman Here! Find Ilene Fishman on Instagram Check out Ilene's book: The Deeper Fix: For Your Growth and Empowerment Bergen Mental Health Group Inc. is hiring! If you think you'd be a great fit, check it out! Grab my Journal Prompts Here! Looking for a speaker for an upcoming event? Let's chat! LEAVE A REVIEW + help someone who may need this podcast by sharing this episode. Be sure to sign up for my weekly newsletter here! You can connect with me on Instagram @rachelleheinemann, through my website www.rachelleheinemann.com, or email me directly at [email protected]

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