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Unexplainable

Is everything inflammation?

22 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the relationship between inflammation and modern life?

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Chapter 2: How is inflammation perceived in popular culture?

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42.64 - 63.132 Sally Helm

Sometimes I just want to know what is wrong. Like, why am I so tired? Why does life feel so hard? And I have come to learn that if you address that question, not to your sister or your therapist, but instead to TikTok, you can get a blessedly simple answer.

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Inflammation is the root of all disease.

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The root cause of almost all chronic illnesses and aging itself.

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70.687 - 79.401 Sally Helm

To hear some people tell it, inflammation is the cause of basically everything. Like all of the problems with our health.

Chapter 3: What are the different types of inflammation?

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Heart disease, diabetes, Alzheimer's disease, even some forms of cancer.

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Acne, eczema, hair loss, hormonal issues, PMS, bloating, irregular bowel movements.

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You can actually look better, look younger, feel better. Everything gets better when we lower inflammation.

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Are you worried? Because don't worry, there are also tips.

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First is supplements. Curcumin is extremely anti-inflammatory. Cinnamon's very anti-inflammatory. Tip number two, consider taking a break from food. Number three, more fish.

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Okay, and now I am confused because it sounds like I'm supposed to eat a lot of fish sprinkled with curcumin, which I don't actually know what that is.

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The main active ingredient in turmeric is curcumin. Okay, great. Which on its own is not easily absorbed by your body.

128.767 - 129.267 Sally Helm

Uh-oh.

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Enter black pepper, specifically pepperine.

Chapter 4: What causes chronic inflammation in our bodies?

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And I'm probably also supposed to buy something? Together, they really create this potent extract in this bottle. At this point, I'm like, as much as I wanted a nice, simple explanation, this just can't be real. Like, inflammation cannot be the root of all diseases. But then I came across a recent big piece by my colleague at Fox, health reporter Dylan Scott.

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167.337 - 198.147 Sally Helm

And the science in this piece, it was really surprising to me. Because it sounds like there is something to the idea that chronic inflammation may be behind many of the diseases of modern life. But it also sounds like we've demonized inflammation without pausing to ask what it's good for. It's Unexplainable. I'm Sally Helm. And today I ask Dylan Scott, what is inflammation?

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198.329 - 238.967 Sally Helm

And what is it about the way we're living life that is causing something healthy and natural to creep further and further until it becomes bad for us? Dylan Scott, hello. Hi, Sally. All right, Dylan. I have seen many, many different TikToks about inflammation and how it's perhaps causing like every single health problem in our lives.

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239.032 - 245.544 Sally Helm

And I am curious, before you started looking into this, did you see those? Is that what sent you on this journey?

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245.924 - 255.722 Dylan Scott

Absolutely. I love something that's sort of at the intersection of there is a genuine scientific question underlying all of this.

Chapter 5: How does modern living contribute to chronic inflammation?

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This is a serious topic that a lot of well-credentialed researchers are spending their time looking into. But at the same time, it's sort of infiltrated the wellness influencer subculture that defines so much of how we talk about health these days. And it has become a catch-all culprit for a lot of different health conditions.

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And you've also got people out there talking about, you know, diets or supplements or some kind of other interventions that you can take to try to reduce your quote-unquote inflammation.

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Do you have any favorites or least favorites?

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Seamoss has become a fixation for some people, like people on TikTok.

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It sounds so specific that I'm like, okay, let's do it.

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Maybe it works. Right. Well, and people, they talk about it with such confidence. confidence. That is the weird allure of a lot of this wellness content on social media is because, yeah, it's quick. It's whatever, a 90-second video. It's digestible. And they're like, here, here is the elixir, the solution that will help to reduce your chronic inflammation.

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I think any of us would be like, well, that sounds appealing. I'd like to try that out.

329.532 - 342.89 Sally Helm

But as you've already said, Dylan, like this is not just TikTok nonsense. Right. Like the thing about inflammation is that there is this real body of evidence suggesting that there's something important to think about here.

Chapter 6: What health issues are linked to chronic inflammation?

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Yeah. So let's get into it. I actually want to start here in the realm of language, because this word inflammation, it's such a powerful word, maybe even a little too powerful, because it contains this feeling of fire within it. And I just want to start by asking you, like, is that the right metaphor for inflammation?

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369.56 - 396.409 Dylan Scott

I completely agree with you. Like, it's a very evocative term that gives you this image of your body being ablaze. But I do think, like, fire is, I think, in some ways an appropriate metaphor for what inflammation does. But I think we have to remember that, like, our relationship to fire is complicated. Like, fire is certainly a destructive force at times, but it can also be a cleansing force.

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Like, fire is natural, even like, you know, Huge forests need fire sometimes to sweep through and clean things up and allow something new to grow on top of it. And I think it's similar with inflammation, where we have a complicated relationship to it.

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Some level of inflammation is absolutely necessary for our bodies to function as they should, but much like fire, too much of it can start to cause serious problems.

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I do feel like I need to ask a kind of basic question before we go much further here, which is, Dylan, what is inflammation?

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In essence, inflammation is your immune system going into attack mode and either sending immunity cells or other kinds of chemicals that your body can release to try to get rid of some outside invader that your body perceives as having infiltrated it and wants to get rid of to keep you healthy.

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And so, obviously, if that outside invader is a cold virus or the influenza virus or some bacteria or something like that, that's what we call acute inflammation. And that's something that we've known about for ages. Even ancient doctors knew that the body goes into some kind of response when you get sick.

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And it's like, okay, great. Yes.

Chapter 7: What practical steps can we take to reduce inflammation?

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Get it gone. I don't want that in there.

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481.723 - 498.163 Dylan Scott

I mean, yeah, for this kind of acute inflammation that we're talking about in response to a virus or a bacteria or a wound, you know, back in the ancient times that you might've gotten on the battlefield or something, you know, the red skin or puffy skin that can surround a wound and like, it can be painful.

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498.444 - 523.429 Dylan Scott

It can feel hot, but at the same time, that is like your body responding to a problem and trying to fix it. And so, I mean, my sense is that the word developed because it has these literal associations with heat. But I do think it's created this problem unintentionally where it just sounds like something negative. Inflammation sounds like something that you want to get rid of.

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523.409 - 537.646 Dylan Scott

And it certainly, like, put me in a different mind space when I learned that, like, oh, no, like, inflammation is, you know, it's your body repairing itself. Like, that sounds positive, but it's not maybe, like, where your mind naturally goes when you hear the word inflammation.

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537.986 - 559.491 Sally Helm

I mean, and what you're saying, like, cold virus, wound, we've, like, felt and seen that. Like, I can imagine my throat being swollen if I have a cold. But the scary thing is that it sounds like... There's this secret other inflammation that can happen where it's just like invisible, microscopic in your whole body. Tell me about that. Is that the bad one?

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So as one of the scientists I talked to for my story put it, every cell in your body can experience inflammation. Oh, God. A lot of that inflammation, to your point, is happening at the molecular level that we're never going to be able to perceive with our own eyes. But even there, even with this invisible type of inflammation, there's a good kind and there's a bad kind.

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So once again, it's more complicated than you might think.

Chapter 8: What future developments are expected in understanding inflammation?

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There's first what scientists call homeostatic inflammation. And this is basically like your body doing routine maintenance. Like your cells, you know, we don't like to stop and think about this, but like, you know, they're degrading slowly over time. Your body's stepping in all the time to make repairs.

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And I'm even thinking like, I guess if you like lift weights or work out or something, like, Exactly. Well, we want that. I mean, we need that type of thing.

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609.906 - 626.383 Dylan Scott

Yes, exactly. When you work out, when you lift weights, your muscles tear. They're injured, basically. And part of the reason that you get stronger is because then inflammation takes hold. It repairs those muscles and it repairs them back stronger than they were before. I mean, that's the essence of strength training.

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626.363 - 652.506 Dylan Scott

So that is exactly, that kind of inflammation at the invisible level, that's desirable. That's just a part of your body functioning as it's supposed to. The third kind of inflammation and this other kind of invisible inflammation is what we're concerned about. And I've come to think of it as this chronic, low-grade inflammation that is above those routine maintenance levels, that is not...

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like sort of your body's normal homeostatic state of being. And that kind of inflammation, which can persist over a long period of time, is the kind of inflammation that scientists and physicians are worried about that we're beginning to realize can be associated with a wide range of health problems.

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All right. So I'm just recapping.

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Sure.

674.305 - 700.794 Sally Helm

Inflammation happens when your body goes into like defense mode and your immune system sends blood containing like chemicals to help fight pathogens or heal a wound. And I can imagine why blood flowing to an area could lead to redness and swelling and heat and all those things. But it sounds like the concern is that being in constant defense mode like this can actually cause its own problems.

701.235 - 701.336 Maria Sharapova

Yeah.

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