Gabrielle Lyon Part 2

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Why is the first meal of the day the most important for building muscle after 40?

Dr. Mary Claire Haver 0:00
In part one of my conversation with doctor Gabrielle Lyon. A board certified family medicine physician and founder of the Institute for Muscle Centric Medicine. We challenged decades of conventional wisdom about women's health. We talked about why skeletal muscle is the foundation of healthy aging, why so many women are dramatically underconsuming protein, and why building and preserving muscle must be at the center of every conversation about longevity. Now it's time to get practical. In this episode, Dr. Ly breaks down exactly how much protein women really need. She explains why anabolic resistance changes the equation after midlife and how resistance training, hormone therapy, and even GLP1 medications fit into the picture.
Dr. Mary Claire Haver 0:45
She also gets into when you should be eating protein throughout the day and why sleep matters just as much as the workout itself. We also tackle one of the biggest questions I hear from women every day. Which is how you actually build and keep muscle in your 40s, 50s, 60s, and beyond. Part one explained why muscle matters. And this conversation gives you the roadmap for protecting it. I'm Dr. Mary Claire Haver, a board-certified obstetrician and gynecologist, and certified menopause practitioner and adjunct professor at the University of Texas Medical Branch. Welcome to Unpaused, where we cut through the silence and talk about what it really takes for women to thrive in the second half of life. The views and opinions expressed on Unpaused are those of the talent and guests alone, and are provided for informational and entertainment purposes only.
Dr. Mary Claire Haver 1:37
No part of this podcast or any related materials are intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. So I hear a lot about when we should eat protein. You you talked about thirty to fifty grams. Like, is the amount per day more important than when per day? And is there a wrong time to eat protein or a right?
Dr. Gabrielle Lyon 2:00
Time to eat protein? From a practical standpoint, that first meal when you are coming out of an overnight fast is important. Okay. It doesn't matter when that is, but you are in a catabolic state. Catabolic state is when you're in a breakdown state. You're not feeding overnight. We were meant to eat in discrete time periods, unlike rodents, who are, you know, 24 hours ad-limited feeding nocturnal beings, but humans. We are meant to eat in discrete meals. So that first meal of the day when you are coming out of an overnight fast. is really important. Doesn't matter when you eat it. Doesn't have to be eight in the morning or six in the morning, doesn't have to be before training or after training. But getting that first meal right at thirty to fifty grams and closer probably to fifty to stimulate mTOR, which is in skeletal muscle, is going to be critical if the listener or viewer only did that one thing.
Dr. Gabrielle Lyon 2:53
That is enough just based on those early 2000 studies and they've been replicated. So now we have a large body of evidence. This will change body composition. If they do nothing else.
Dr. Mary Claire Haver 3:03
Amazing.
Dr. Gabrielle Lyon 3:03
And there's a there's more to address there. First meal is really important also before you go to sleep, the last meal of the day, and not necessarily an hour before you go to sleep, but that last meal of the day is also really important. So you're bookending both Both days. Should or both times once a day.
Dr. Mary Claire Haver 3:21
We talked a little bit about protein timing around training. So you s you're saying just get the protein
Dr. Gabrielle Lyon 3:26
in? I mean, there's a little nuance here. Again, all studies, to my knowledge, are done with that first meal of the day because it's easier to have a kind of a clean slate from a measuring perspective. But if you are eating a higher protein diet, closer to one point two to one point six, if you are plant based, you have to be at the higher end, one point six, then protein timing doesn't matter as long as the totality of protein you're getting in. Okay. That being said. Still, we have great data that that first meal at thirty to fifty grams of protein affects satiety, affects body composition.

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