08 Lies in Lismore | BONUS Inquest insider speaks
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Hi Unravel listeners, it's Richard Baker, host and reporter of Lies in Lismore. For this bonus episode, I have an interview that I want to share with you. Ви сама хуже деп і унікнути Симон Стробол кейс. Philip Strickland was the counsel assisting at the second inquest into the killing of Simone in 2024. So what is counsel assisting the coroner? For complex cases, the coroner brings in an external lawyer to help them. This lawyer comes in and assists the coroner by looking through all the evidence, asking questions of the witnesses. And making suggestions to the coroner about how it all fits together. So that's what Philip Strickland did in the recent Simone Strobel inquest.
Which, as you know. Overturned the original findings from 2007 and had a big impact on the case and everyone involved. Philip is a senior counsel based in Sydney. He was appointed by the New South Wales Coroner's Court to work on the Simone Strobel inquest. And he's worked on other coronial inquests in the past. He also works on criminal cases for both the defense and the prosecution. He joins me from a studio in Sydney. Hi Philip. Thanks for agreeing to speak to me today.
It's a pleasure.
Uh I've gotta ask this 'cause I think this is a question a lot of members of the public will have. We have Two cronial inquests, one in two thousand seven and and one in twenty twenty four, coming to starkly different conclusions about the key police theory of what happened to Simone. Largely Both having access to the same pool of crucial evidence. Do you have any idea of how that happens?
There was some new evidence, but I think that your question is a fair one because there was a considerable amount I mean you could say the majority of the evidence was the same. And so how do you how was it viewed so differently? Well It's a good question. I think one of the answers is that people do look at evidence y people interpret evidence differently all the time. In this case What was Really important in the first inquest was the fact that Tabas, Moran. had lied to the investigators. And that evidence was not displaced at the second inquest, indeed. It was accepted that he lied on some really important matters. But in the first inquest And with the police investigation. The police investigation was very much shaped.
By the fact That he had lied to them? And he'd lied about you know, im important matters. Um one of them was
What does a counsel‑assisting the coroner do in a homicide inquest?
The extent of his conflict. With someone. at the time she left and he downplayed that. To the police. And then he lied about how much alcohol he'd had. Uh he lied about his use of marijuana. And then he'd also told his certainly Jens Mart and perhaps his sister to to back up back him up with a lie. Police thought well that Lie was probably to cover up his own guilt. And so that I think shaped the police investigation and they'd viewed a lot of things Through that lens. But I think the lie the lies he gave which were, to put it mildly, extremely unwise of him. distorted the investigation. That's my opinion. It distorted the investigation. Uh un understandably, I mean the police in my view, were quite right to regard him as a suspect and they were quite right to investigate him very thoroughly.
But the issue is whether they did that to the exclusion. or without properly focusing on other suspects.
On the issue of lies and the role they played, Coroner O'Sullivan in her finding pause to remark on the issue of how we interpret lies. Wha what do you think about lies and how they can be interpreted in criminal investigations and and matters of, you know, prosecution?
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:01–3:35
2
What does a counsel‑assisting the coroner do in a homicide inquest?
3:35–7:51
3
Why did the 2007 and 2024 Simone Strobel inquests reach opposite conclusions?
7:51–10:31
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How did Tobias Moran’s lies distort the police investigation?
10:31–16:41
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What is the legal significance of ‘consciousness of guilt’ lies?
16:41–16:47