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Are You a Bad Person... or Did You Do a Bad Thing?

24 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the challenges of staying faithful in modern relationships?

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This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.

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4.638 - 20.56 Clifford Taylor IV

A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what y'all say. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor IV. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.

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21.001 - 39.538 Clifford Taylor IV

This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Clifford Show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok.

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On the Look Back At It podcast.

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1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 was big to me.

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I'm Sam Jay.

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And I'm Alex English.

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Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s.

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84 was a wild year. It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to Look Back at It on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's good, y'all? You're listening to Learn the Hard Way with your favorite therapist and host, Keir Gaines.

Chapter 2: How do emotional affairs differ from physical ones?

89.787 - 100.296 Clifford Taylor IV

And just because you have the capability, that does not mean that you need to. Listen to Learn the Hard Way on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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100.977 - 108.103 Stephanie Young

In 2023, Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd was accused of fathering twins, but the pregnancy appeared to be a hoax.

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You doctored this particular test twice, Ms. Owens, correct?

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I doctored the test once. It took an army of internet detectives to uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing.

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Greg Gillespie and Michael Mancini.

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My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped.

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Laura, Scottsdale Police.

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As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Hi, Amber. Hi, Lola. Welcome to an unlikely affair. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of an unlikely affair. I'm here with... I don't even know what to say. It's so funny. I'm looking at you. You look beautiful though. Lollicant. Good morning.

Chapter 3: What factors make a partner untrustworthy?

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Okay. But give me a chance to explain very quickly because I'm not a sick fuck. I promise you. The floor is yours. Go ahead. Ocean constantly battles me when it comes to getting dressed in the morning. And all she ever wants to wear is a plaid skirt and a striped tank top with a headband. And I'm so over it. And I'm like, it cannot happen again today.

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So in the midst of battling her, the clock keeps getting closer and closer to you need to leave the fucking house to beat traffic to get to the school. I get her hair done. We have no time left. I grabbed the first thing I saw, which was this outfit in the dirty clothes and put it on. And I will be changing after this and bathing. I promise. You know who I am.

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I'm not a filthy fuck, but today it's survival. No, you know what? I know you're not a filthy fuck because let me tell you something. You love taking baths like I do. I know. I know. Well, and the thing about baths, Amber, is a lot of people are weird about them, but I feel like I bathe so often that it's fine. It's fine. You know? No, I love baths.

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You can't... This house in Montana doesn't have a bathtub. Actually... I've noticed a lot of houses in Montana, they don't have bathtubs. And it is so... It's like the number one rule.

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Chapter 4: How can workplace dynamics lead to affairs?

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And I didn't even think about it. I was so desperate to find a house because I had looked everywhere. And it just so happens that this one has a shower bath. And that grosses me out so badly. So that means that I would have to like... I would have to like clean it. And it's like a whole thing. So like going to Vegas and having a bath and then like going to other... It's like a real treat. So...

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Yeah. I did miss you a lot last night. I couldn't sleep really. Oh, I miss you too. Yeah. I went down and got Ocean out of her bed and put her in mine. Oh my gosh. I told Riley. She was brushing her teeth and I said, you're sleeping with me tonight. And London was like, geez, mom. And I said, Riley goes, it's non-negotiable. I'm not even going to fight it. I literally made Riley sleep with me.

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And I think I just needed that I didn't want to sleep by myself. I didn't want to sleep by myself. I didn't either. I kept waking up with a pit in my stomach for some weird reason and then looking at her and grabbing her and just like I needed to like feel my baby next to me. You know what's great at that age is that they don't resist it as they get older and you try to snuggle with them.

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It's like I get a freaking elbow. I get kicked. Like it's not pretty.

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Chapter 5: What role does communication play in preventing infidelity?

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Oh, I better not take an elbow to my brand new tatas. Then we got a real problem. Get the fuck out of the bed. But I'm sure Ocean still sleeps where she does, like, the turning. Or no? Is she pretty straightforward? She's pretty... You mean, like, literally flipping all over the place? Well, you know, when kids are little, they... Well, at least my kids did this. They like turn.

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They don't stay in one position. Next, like you have a foot in the mouth and then their head's at the end of the bed and then they're sideways and then they're falling. I'll never forget. I had a kid fall off the bed at one point. Like they're all, they're like disoriented or something.

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Your kids were wild in the bed because I remember there were a money night that I would sleep in my bed with London and Riley. We do like little face masks or whatever. And they were wild. Mm-hmm. Yeah. All right. Well, maybe it's a genetic thing. I have no idea. It depends on the night. Ocean last night was zonked. But yes, that happens. Kids are wild in the bed. Not fun.

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Last night, we were all good.

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Good.

Chapter 6: How can past experiences shape trust in relationships?

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I'll take it. Okay. Today, I want to talk about affairs in the workplace because of something that had just come out about, I don't know if you heard about this, but the New England Patriots, the head coach who was spotted with a reporter. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I have a few thoughts. I want to trust men, Amber. I really want to trust them. So I want to trust humans, not just men.

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Because let me tell you something. People catch feelings no matter where you go. And the workplace happens to be one place where you're really seen. You're collaborating. You have failures. You have comebacks. There's so many different emotions, especially when you're not a high stake, running a company, doing whatever you're doing, right? I did my little research. This woman...

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sounded like a piece of shit when it comes to her husband. Like she was not, like the things that she was saying on air about her husband was not okay. Before this even happened? I think, yes, yes, yes. Yeah, before they were even caught. So basically, it's the head coach of the Patriots, Rebelle, and Diana Rossini. And Diana has resigned from her position.

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And she worked for the athletic, the sports journalism department of the New York Times. And I mean, I would say that those are pretty prestigious titles to be holding in your career as a journalist, sports journalist. Mike, the coach has yet to resign. So let's touch on her first because you said that she's like a real piece of shit. Just what she was saying.

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Chapter 7: What are the non-negotiables in a relationship?

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Yeah. In my opinion, it was, she was talking about her, her husband who, by the way, I don't know the guy seems like a nice guy. She, she coined him as I think basic or general. What was it? Oh, she said, she said, I'm married to someone very average. And it was like such an insult. Like how do you mean? I think if I were to guess, she was saying he's not someone of importance.

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Like he has a normal job, comes from a normal family, but he was just not kind. And I found it was very disrespectful to their marriage to go online and be like, yeah, my... And then there was another video where she was like, oh, my husband, you don't even want to know what I was doing in Miami. She's like, well, no, no, no, not like that.

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But like the type of partying I was doing, I'm like, why would you... Why would you even say that? This guy needs to leave her. He needs to go find someone who respects him. Listen, I don't know what happens behind closed doors, but just the words that were coming out of her mouth were disgusting to me.

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That's the other thing is I always wonder where your mind has to be to go behind your person's back and start an affair- And if you don't even like the person you're with, why do you stay? I cannot for the life of me wrap my mind around that. I get it. Things happen and people catch feelings.

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And like you said, when you're in the workplace and you're experiencing big wins together or a tough day, that person is there to kind of like be your partner in crime. But I just, I don't get it. I don't think I could do it. I think it starts with an emotional fair, right?

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It starts with like you were talking about, the big wins, the losses, the like, how are we going to solve this problem together? It's proximity. It's a lack of boundaries. I think people don't have any boundaries and they're so ambiguous. The boundaries that people have in their personal lives, in their personal relationships, as well as romantic and professional.

Chapter 8: How can couples rebuild trust after betrayal?

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I just don't feel like people... know how to pause. Like I always talk about the pause and say like, okay, what is this feeling that's coming up? Because listen, I'm an actor. I've been on set. I was, when I was married, I had sex scenes. I had romantic scenes. I was making, like we, but never once did I think, okay, I'm going to take this back to the trailer.

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Like that never once like came into my mind. It's because I I just, I didn't, it just never crossed my mind. Did I think a co-star was fucking hot? Of course I did. But like, I would never jeopardize my family. even if I wasn't in a good position, like I would question myself and these feelings like, okay, wait, I feel like I'm really being like, I really am attracted to this person. Right.

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Or there's something about this person that makes me feel really good. Okay. What is that feeling? Like, am I being seen? Do I feel more seen here than I do in my personal life? Okay. Well, what am I going to do about those feelings? I'm going to go back to my husband or my partner and say, okay, can we talk about something?

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I'm not going to bring up what happened at work or the feelings that I was having, but like, I'm going to sit there, look back and like reevaluate my relationship and what I feel like I'm missing and what tank is not being filled up at home. Oh, I love what you just said.

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I also think that you and I are the type of people where when, when you and I start building, building something with someone, building the foundation, right? Like, I hold on to that. I don't forget it easily.

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So when I'm out in the world and let's say I see someone who's good looking, it goes so far beyond that, that it's like, okay, you're good looking, but there's nothing there that would make me want to like get naked with you because I'm holding on to something that I've built that's sturdy with this other person, right?

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So like you said, it could be where maybe the foundation is fractured and that's when things kind of get scary. But like you said, having the conversation. I also think with this Diana person, the journalist, I think this guy is a shiny object for her. She's in sports journalism.

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And the guy who is the head coach of the New England Patriots, the team that Tom Brady used to play for, the team that was in the Super Bowl, he's paying attention to me. I think people get cloudy. So allegedly they were vacationing together in New Sedona, Arizona. By the way, if I'm having an affair, which I never would, but if I would, I would be going to Sedona, Arizona.

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