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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Chapter 2: What led to Dorit Kemsley's separation from PK?
Really?
Definitely not. Okay. However, I would say there was probably... right before the home invasion, like for the first... Oh, I don't know.
Chapter 3: How does Dorit feel about re-entering the dating scene?
Let's see. I'm going to have to do the math in my head, but... I would say the first seven or eight years, maybe nine years, I mean, we were as solid as they come. Okay. I mean, truly, truly solid. Indestructible. And very much in love. You could see that. You could see that when you watched the show. Truly, truly.
I mean, he was, I never thought in a million years that Pika and I would not stay together forever. Truly. Never, ever, ever, Lala. Then I think that You know, PK would say the show. I wouldn't. He blames the show? He thinks... No, no, he blames the show. However, he puts a lot of emphasis on the fact that the show hurt our marriage.
And does he feel that way from the time you guys entered? It started affecting the marriage? Or was there a specific season, an incident where he goes, after this season of BH aired... The show kind of took us down.
Yeah, no, he doesn't reference it. I've never heard him reference a season.
However, he'll say- Because you guys looked very much in love and happy. Anytime I saw you guys on camera, I was like, oh my gosh, this makes so much sense. You can just tell that they're partners. He was very supportive when you started the bathing suit line.
I know, I know. Very supportive. And we were actually really codependent. Like we did everything together. And he was like my favorite person to be with. Yeah. I mean, it's crazy to even think about, especially with how the last couple of years have been, because I don't know how you go from that and someone who's family, like truly family.
I thought of him as he's my blood to having somebody do the things that He's done.
It's very disorienting, isn't it? Wow. It's a mind fuck. It is. And it's hard. Like you saying that you dove into like mommy mode and he was out doing what he was doing. I do think that it's most men. They just are wired differently. Like when we experience heartbreak, we hold on to the memories and we hold on to what we've built and the foundation that we had. That's right.
And it's so easy for them to just walk away from it all. while we tap into how will this affect my children?
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Chapter 4: What revelations did Dorit share about the RHOBH reunion?
How do I make this as easy as possible? Like you said, your kids are very much aware that I had parents that were together and now they're not together. And it resonates with me that two years in, you are finally coming to, maybe I will go out and date and dabble. Because women don't have the luxury, especially mothers. We don't have the luxury of moving like men. That's right.
We also don't get... We say that women have come so far. We have not. I've looked at the comment section on occasion. Scary place. I know. It is mostly women who are ripping me to shreds. It makes me sick. Right. It makes me sick too. And when...
things were not the same with you and PK and you knew that you were going into a new season because now it's been two seasons that you've been dealing with this. That's right. What was your mental state? Did you ever think like, maybe I don't want to go back and I should focus on my mental health? By the way, Doree, I have...
been where you are and it is suffocating and you're in survival and you turn into a fucking warrior and anybody who doesn't stand with you is.
Oh my God. Yes. You feel, I mean, you're already, you're already on reserves, right? So, and I had, I feel like I've been in this place without a break for two years. And prior to that, I was dealing with PTSD. So really, you're not only in reserves.
You haven't come up for air in a long time. A long time. Yeah.
A long time. But now, you know, as you said... the two-year mark. And after, this season was difficult. It was really hard. To answer your question, it was this season that I thought, you know what? I really, really debated going back. I thought I need, I think I should take a year off. Okay. We were, you know, in this acrimonious divorce. It wasn't as bad as it is now.
Now it's just so public and, you know, this new wave of, you know, the court document and leaking, you know, attaching personal text messages and making these claims and, you know, putting a narrative out there into the public. When you start involving the public, when you have a divorce,
truly in the public, you know, and you're litigating in the public, you're inviting a whole world of destruction. Right. And to me, it makes absolutely no sense. When you share two children... especially that they are now going to school. They were homeschooled. So they were living in a bubble for a while. Now they're going to school. I know the parents, you know, they pay attention.
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Chapter 5: Why did Dorit decide to write her book, Unburdened?
Right. So unfortunately now the divorce has gone in there and I know I've gone off on a tangent, but- No, this is the podcast of tangenting. Okay.
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Well, going into season 15, I very much felt like I wanted- I thought I should take a year off. And I was debating it because financially, it's very hard to walk away, especially because I was, you know, it's no longer a luxury. You know, I'm supporting our children and myself.
But I really felt like when I was going through everything, I thought, you know, it makes sense for me to take a year off. And I can't say I should, I shouldn't. I don't really believe in regrets, Lala. I don't. I think it's a useless thought and sentiment. There's nothing you can do about it. Exactly. Exactly. So it is what it is.
But I really had this very strong feeling that, you know, it was not going to be right. I don't think I was in the right headspace. I think that I was not as... grounded as I needed to be. And when you do a show like this, you really need to be grounded.
I really felt like I need to focus on the children and focus on moving this divorce forward, trying to connect with PK, which I knew was going to be the best situation for all of us. Ultimately, that's the end goal. Because how do you effectively co-parent if you cannot have
respectful communication well you don't you move into parallel parenting which is where i'm at and it's it's difficult and both people involved have to be willing to do all of the things that were non-negotiables in your relationship an intimate partnership with pk you now have to take those and apply it to a co-parenting relationship which is very hard
for men that are a certain type of man to do. That's exactly right. The transparency, the honesty, all of the things. And I know that when I went through, so I wasn't, I didn't go through a divorce. So none of my stuff was public. Custody is a completely separate, like it's closed off. No one knows the details. Once you enter a divorce, that is like fair game for everybody.
And I can't imagine how suffocating it is because it's out there. And then you got to go talk about it on your show. Yes. And deal with the aftermath. That's right. Which is everyone's opinion. PK's opinion. How did the audience react to this season? We both spoke about how we live in bubbles. Yes. What was the honest reaction from people towards you after this season?
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Chapter 6: What challenges did Dorit face as a single mother?
I know. I will say this. I think people had, what I did here is after the reunion. So I don't really know during the season. And maybe you could tell me, but I know after the reunion, you know, people were having very strong feelings. You know, to be perfectly honest though, and it was hard for me to watch. Hard. I knew where I was. I knew where I was emotionally.
What was hard for you to watch then?
Just like how... I was very much in my own feelings. Okay. And those feelings were raw and they were, I wasn't able to take a step back. I wasn't able to see things the way I do typically, where even if I have an opinion, I'll try to see someone else's side. Do you see what I mean?
That's survival. You, you didn't, you, this is what I gathered from it. Cause I watched. These. I gathered from this season, you were definitely harsh, right? Yes. But because I've been there. Yeah. Where I'm like, what I am dealing with on a regular basis.
Yes.
Outside of this world. Yes. Would bring most people, it would put them in the fucking grave. A million percent. So when I saw your reaction to people, it was like, this is a woman who, who is absolutely terrified of her future, has no one to fall back on but herself. For the first time, she is alone on an island and it's like, figure out how to get off of it. That is survival.
And let me tell you, when you can look at the person that you procreated with loved on such a deep and intimate level, they became a part of you. When you can walk away from that, you can fucking walk away from anybody. It's like, this is no problem. So when you reacted to Kyle and Erica that way, I understood.
And you're not, not meaning you, just women who are put in those positions, you're not yourself. You're going to war for your heart and soul, your children. Right?
Right?
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Chapter 7: How does Dorit describe her emotional journey after the separation?
You know, it's coming from your heart. I know that you fully mean it. And I can see also, even in your face, you really understand.
I do understand.
You know, exactly what you said. And I had been going through it, you know, just to give you a little context, because there's a lot that people don't know. From the beginning, when PK at first, well, actually, and I talk about this in the book. I want to deep dive into your book, by the way. Yes, yes. Well, I'll say this.
When we agreed to separate, it was actually, PK was sober and he had his sober coach over and it was his sober coach who sort of told me that we should take, you know, we should separate.
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Chapter 8: What insights does Dorit offer about friendships during tough times?
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And the couples therapist never said to you, this feels like you need to take a break? No. But the sober coach did. That's very interesting to me.
Well, it wasn't him that said it. It was obviously PK. PK, so he was just a mouthpiece. Exactly. Got it. Yes. He didn't have the courage to sit down with me and say it. That's what I gather. Because something that really should have been a conversation between him and I. Mm-hmm. He just, it wasn't. So I was blindsided, really blindsided.
But like I said, we have two small children, two children, very vulnerable ages. And within 24 hours, I realized, listen, the best way for everyone, the best way The way everybody is going to, what's going to serve us all best is if PK and I can put all of our differences aside and just be respectful, communicate. He can do whatever he wants. This is what he needs. This is what, nevermind.
Like I was prepared to put my emotions to the side and just focus on being friends, preserve a bond that we have. Happy to work through things if he wanted to in a safe place and, you know, with a therapist. But other than that, we just stay friendly, amicable, and we can co-parent. And that's all I was focused on. He agreed in the moment, but a week later, it changed.
And there was no communication. And he basically took off. And... In doing that, it kickstarted this intense, not only anxiety, but it leads to so many other problems. Right. Our lives are intertwined.
Right, yeah.
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