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Hormuz Latest, Trump Rallies Amid Sinking Approval, Tariff Refunds

18 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What recent actions has Iran taken regarding the Strait of Hormuz?

2.41 - 5.736 Melissa Nadworny

Iran says it's clamping down again on the Strait of Hormuz.

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5.756 - 9.103 Scott Simon

Putting the temporary reprieve of the ceasefire at risk.

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9.343 - 14.373 Melissa Nadworny

So how temporary is that reprieve? And that's the question of the weekend. I'm Melissa Nadworny.

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14.493 - 17.719 Scott Simon

And I'm Scott Simon. And this is Up First from NPR News.

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21.057 - 28.448 Melissa Nadworny

The deal to pause fighting was holding. Now it joins the same shaky ground as the ceasefire in Lebanon. We dig in on both.

28.668 - 35.719 Scott Simon

Then we'll take you to a huge church in Arizona as President Trump rallies supporters as general support erodes.

36.139 - 40.365 Melissa Nadworny

And Monday is refund day, but not for IRS 1040 filers.

40.546 - 48.938 Scott Simon

Though tariffs are a tax, we'll explain. So please stay with us. We've got the news you need to start your weekend.

Chapter 2: How is the ceasefire in the Middle East affecting regional stability?

56.343 - 79.718 Brittany Luce

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81.622 - 95.984 Melissa Nadworny

First, a look at those ceasefires in the Middle East. Washington and Beirut have announced a 10-day ceasefire in the fight between Israel and the militant group Hezbollah. And the ceasefire between the U.S. and Iran is set to end next week.

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96.005 - 107.531 Scott Simon

But overnight, Iran reimposed restrictions on the Strait of Hormuz, putting new pressure on President Trump. NPR's Quill Lawrence joins us. Quill, thanks for being with us. Good morning, Scott. Let's begin with the Strait.

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107.892 - 109.454 Quill Lawrence

Yeah, it's been a real whiplash.

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Chapter 3: What was the significance of President Trump's rally in Arizona?

109.935 - 130.489 Quill Lawrence

Yesterday, with the ceasefire between Israel and Lebanon, Iran announced it would open the Strait to commercial traffic for the duration of that ceasefire, but only along this prescribed route close to the Iranian coast. But then the U.S. said it would maintain its blockade of Iranian ports while those peace talks continue.

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130.99 - 150.961 Quill Lawrence

So perhaps in response today, Iran's military said, no, the strait remains closed until the U.S. lifts its blockade of Iran. So it's been a confusing, what, 24 hours with a lot of questions left about is the strait reclosed or never really open to shipping. And so where does that put the ceasefire between the U.S. and Iran?

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151.602 - 170.267 Quill Lawrence

Well, officially, it's set to expire on Tuesday, April 21st. There's talk of extending that deadline. One source on Capitol Hill, who's not authorized to speak publicly, told NPR that he's hearing at least the Pakistanis who are hosting these talks want to extend them. President Trump has said that a deal with Iran is very close.

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170.488 - 173.712 Quill Lawrence

And yesterday he told reporters, quote, I think it's going to happen.

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As you say, Pakistan's mediating the talks.

Chapter 4: How are Trump's approval ratings impacting his campaign strategy?

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Vice President Vance was in Islamabad last weekend, but did not seemingly make much progress. So what's the next step?

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184.793 - 205.342 Quill Lawrence

The next step could be direct talks between the U.S. and Iran, most likely there in Pakistan. And President Trump told reporters that if there's a deal, he might even go there and show up in person. But of course, that was before the news that Iran closed the strait. At this point, the deal is seems probably to hinge on a pause in Iran's nuclear enrichment program.

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205.663 - 219.278 Quill Lawrence

The administration wants a 20-year pause while Iran is talking about a five-year pause, so there'll be some haggling over that timeline. We spoke to one analyst who said, yes, of course, a deal is better than war, but without any details, it's hard to say.

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219.318 - 242.782 Quill Lawrence

For example, will there be international inspectors who will go in to see if Iran is just maintaining a peaceful nuclear infrastructure, not a weapons program? Will the U.S. unfreeze billions of dollars in frozen Iranian assets? Those were all factors in a deal forged during the Obama administration that President Trump scrapped in his first term. He called it a bad deal.

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Chapter 5: What are the upcoming changes regarding tariff refunds?

243.543 - 256.635 Quill Lawrence

The unfreezing of these assets is something the Iranians apparently are insisting on this time. But we don't know to what extent President Trump will essentially rebuild the JCPOA. That was the deal that was hammered out into the Obama administration.

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And give us more details, please, on the deal in Lebanon.

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260.549 - 282.285 Quill Lawrence

Yes, it's a 10-day ceasefire. But the most important distinction is that Israel may have made a peace deal with a Lebanese government. It's not clear they've made a peace deal with Hezbollah, the Iranian-backed Shiite militia army, the entity that was at war with Israel. So that militant group has said it won't accept any deal. President Trump has urged them to, quote, act nicely.

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282.265 - 296.797 Quill Lawrence

Hezbollah says Israel can't have any freedom of movement in Lebanon, but Israeli forces are in southern Lebanon right now. They say they're there to prevent Hezbollah from firing rockets and missiles into Israel. And meanwhile, there's a huge buildup of U.S. forces in the region. One U.S.

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296.837 - 308.647 Quill Lawrence

carrier group actually took the ancient route around the length of Africa instead of going through the Suez Canal to get there, which I think tells you a lot about the current state of safety of navigation in the region.

Chapter 6: How can businesses apply for tariff refunds following the Supreme Court ruling?

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And Pierce Grill Lawrence, thanks so much. Thank you.

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320.352 - 344.014 Melissa Nadworny

President Trump hit the campaign trail out west this week, touting no tax on tips in Nevada. He then headed to Arizona for a campaign-style rally held in a megachurch with the group Turning Point USA. During a week marked by controversy around his criticism of Pope Leo and the continued war in Iran, Trump's speech in front of a friendly crowd generated a lot of enthusiasm for the president.

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343.994 - 363.356 Scott Simon

This November, we're going to win the midterms. But the president's appearance comes during a time when his approval ratings across the country are at a record low. NPR's Sage Miller joins us now to give us the rundown on Friday's event. Now the president's trying to convince voters in swing states to stick with him. Sage, thanks for being with us.

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363.376 - 364.197 Sage Miller

Thanks for having me.

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Why was the president giving special attention to the West this week?

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Well, Trump is trying to gain critical support for Republicans in swing states ahead of the midterm election, really trying to get the momentum going. Both Nevada and Arizona are critical battleground states, and Trump doesn't want to lose control of Congress come November.

Chapter 7: What challenges might consumers face regarding tariff refunds?

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But that's looking like it might be an uphill battle.

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And how so?

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388.78 - 411.829 Sage Miller

Trump has been in a lot of hot water following a slew of unpopular policies, including most recently the war in Iran. The war has driven up gas prices and inflation, major election issues. In an average of the polls, the president has hit a record low approval rating of 39%. However, Trump did not have to worry about criticism with this crowd.

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412.27 - 419.019 Sage Miller

The crowd frequently erupted in cheers when Trump said something they agree with, even when he was speaking about the war.

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419.08 - 433.62 Donald Trump

We are not ashamed of American might, and we do not hesitate to defend the American people, which is what we've been doing for the last two months, because Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. It's very simple.

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And they booed loudly whenever Trump mentioned something about Democrats.

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They wanted to fund ICE. They want ICE terminated.

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Even if morale is low nationwide, the audience was full of loyalists. When member station KJZZ political reporter Cameron Sanchez asked about the president's sharp criticisms of Pope Lito, many voters here backed Trump. This is what Ken McCormick had to say.

Chapter 8: What are the implications of the tariff refund process for small businesses?

461.848 - 471.616 Ken McCormick

I've heard about it. Don't really care about it. Yeah. I mean, he says things all the time that make people mad. And I just that's just the way he is.

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472.076 - 489.979 Sage Miller

These are the voters. And this is the kind of crowd he feels he can build momentum and a swing stay ahead of a midterm election that could be really cumbersome for Republicans. The majority of polls project a Democratic advantage. But Trump told attendees not to listen to the polls. Just get out and vote red when the time comes.

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What was President Trump's message overall to voters in Arizona?

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494.89 - 502.807 Sage Miller

You know, Trump stuck to his usual script for the most part. He praised the same talking points he has since the beginning of his second term.

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503.068 - 512.528 Donald Trump

America is on the march and America is on the rise like we haven't seen maybe ever before. We are respected again as a country.

512.508 - 529.892 Sage Miller

Right now, though, there isn't a lot of strong policies he can lean on and elevate. There isn't a winning message out of the White House at the moment, which makes it harder for him to sell on the campaign trail. That's why the Turning Point crowd bodes so well for him. They are people who will support Trump no matter what.

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And he wants these loyalist crowds to help him do the heavy lifting of persuasion for voters who are on the fence, especially in these swing states.

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Of course, this was a Turning Point USA event, and President Trump is closely aligned with the organization, which has been in a period of rebuilding since its founder, Charlie Kirk, was shot to death last fall. What role does Turning Point play in all this push to win with conservatives?

556.484 - 575.452 Sage Miller

Turning Point used to have a really strong influence on young conservative voters. That was a voting bloc both parties struggled with, but Turning Point seemed to have figured out the secret sauce. But ever since, like you said, the founder Charlie Kirk died, the organization hasn't had the same reach with young Republicans as it once did.

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