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NATO Friction, Florida Detention Center, Public Corruption

09 May 2026

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How is President Trump's criticism affecting NATO relations?

2.765 - 12.486 Ayesha Roscoe

A new take on an old problem. The issue in question is public corruption, and the response from the second Trump administration is worth a look.

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12.506 - 17.938 Alyssa Nadworny

I'm Ayesha Roscoe. And I'm Alyssa Nadworny, and this is Up First from NPR News.

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21.209 - 45.546 Ayesha Roscoe

NPR has new reporting on how President Trump and his DOJ approached misdeeds by public officials. And we've got justice correspondent Ryan Lucas for you today on the podcast. Also, a controversial Florida detention center may be shutting its doors. And how NATO's member states are feeling about and reacting to the current moment. So stay with us. We have the news you need to start your weekend.

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74.551 - 90.597 Ayesha Roscoe

First up today, a rocky moment for a key alliance. In the 10 weeks since the start of the war in Iran, the geopolitical costs are growing, along with the enormous economic fallout as the conflict inflames a fight between President Trump and NATO allies.

90.797 - 101.875 Alyssa Nadworny

Bringing relations to what many experts say is a low point in NATO's 77-year history. NPR's Scott Newman joins us now with the latest and how we got here. Good morning, Scott.

102.007 - 102.732 Scott Newman

Good morning, Alyssa.

103.276 - 107.646 Alyssa Nadworny

Okay, so remind us how this dispute between President Trump and NATO started.

108.25 - 127.078 Scott Newman

To start with, NATO criticized the White House for not consulting them before planning strikes on Iran. Then Trump himself rebuked NATO for not backing the U.S. war effort. Now, Spain has refused to let the U.S. use bases on its soil, while the U.K. and Germany say they won't join the U.S. blockade of Iranian ports.

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