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Shangri-La Dialogue, Trump's Slush Fund, Gas Prices

30 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the Shangri-La Dialogue and why is it significant?

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Leaders from all over Asia gather in Singapore this weekend to discuss defense and security.

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The U.S. Secretary of Defense explains his plans for trying to keep peace in the Pacific.

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I'm Aisha Roscoe.

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And I'm Scott Simon, and this is Up First from NPR News.

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The Shangri-La dialogue in Singapore reveals a lot of different opinions over which superpower, America or China, is pulling ahead.

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Well, for the billion-dollar fund that President Trump set up for friends and allies is halted by two judges, and another judge orders Donald Trump's name off the Kennedy Center.

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And high gas prices are sending more people to Walmart and Costco to fill up their cars.

Chapter 2: What are Secretary Hegseth's plans for Pacific security?

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It was a packed room earlier today in Singapore when Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth took the stage at the Shangri-La Dialogue, the Asian Defense Summit. It comes amid concerns about China's military posture, especially towards Taiwan, and after an intense week of negotiations between the U.S.

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Chapter 3: How is the U.S.-China relationship evolving in military terms?

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and Iran to end their war.

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And here's Jennifer Packers in Singapore. Thanks so much for being with us.

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Thanks for having me.

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And what was Secretary Hegseth's message at the Defense Summit?

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Well, his message, and he said it to a room full of military defense officials and diplomats, is for Asian allies to ramp up their defense spending to counter China. Secretary Hegseth says there is rightful alarm at China's military buildup.

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That a Pacific dominated by any hegemon would unravel the regional balance of power and undermine the equilibrium we all seek to preserve.

Chapter 4: What legal challenges is President Trump currently facing?

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He was less clear, though, on how to prevent an escalation. He only said Asian allies should not be, quote, freeloading off American taxpayers. Overall, this is a more toned down message from last year when he called out China for its aggressive policies, continual harassment of Taiwan, which Beijing protested against.

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So far, the Chinese delegation has applauded Secretary Hegseth for repeating China's line that the two countries need to maintain a constructive strategic stability.

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And let me follow up about Taiwan, independent democracy claimed by China, a continuing point of tension. What did Secretary Hegseth say?

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Not a whole lot. Let's remember that there was a lot of confusion recently when President Trump commented that arms sales to Taiwan is a, quote, very good negotiating chip with China. Days later, a senior U.S. official said arms sales to Taiwan have been paused due to the war in Iran.

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Chapter 5: How are high gas prices affecting consumer behavior?

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Now, today, Hegseth said any decision about the future of Taiwan arms sales rests solely with President Trump. But he also said the U.S. has good weapons stockpiles, and he played down concerns that weapons sales to Taiwan is contingent on how things are going in the Middle East conflict. And he said there is no change in the status of U.S.-Taiwan relations.

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Because, of course, the Iran war is another issue that affects Asian allies.

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Chapter 6: What insights do Costco and Walmart provide about gas prices?

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Did Secretary Hegseth give any clarity there?

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Also no. He repeated what President Trump has already said, that the president is patient and will only strike a deal if it's a good one, and that's defined as one that ensures Iran doesn't get a nuclear weapon. He also said that the U.S. is ready to resume strikes on Iran if no deal is reached. Of course, there were some U.S. strikes last week already.

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And China's defense minister skipped the forum for the second year in a row. What can be written to that?

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Yeah, I mean, China did not send the defense minister to the summit, and instead they sent a low-level delegation of military experts and scholars. Now, in terms of direct U.S.-China engagement at this forum, I think that's less important because Secretary Hegseth already said that the two countries have more military to military exchanges, or at least that's the plan.

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And that's important because they need to avoid any misunderstanding that could spark a conflict. But for the wider region, this is a missed opportunity for China. Because even though Secretary Hegseth is touting that relations between the U.S. and China are at their best in years, China and the U.S.

Chapter 7: What are the implications of rising gas prices on the economy?

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are still strategic competitors. And much smaller countries in the region feel really caught between the two superpowers. Vietnam's President Tho Lam yesterday said in his keynote speech at the event that one of the biggest risks is unchecked competition where might makes right. And they're looking for positive signals, both from the U.S. and China, that this is not the case.

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NPR's Jennifer Pak in Singapore, thanks so much.

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Thank you.

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hopes to end the war in Iran this weekend faded after President Trump left a two-hour situation room meeting yesterday without the quote-unquote final determination he promised on the way in.

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We turn now to NPR senior contributor Ron Elving for The Week in Politics. Ron, thanks so much for being with us. Good to be with you, Scott. And let's begin with this oft-used phrase of the era. A federal judge says this week that President Trump's name must come off the Kennedy Center because Congress didn't put it there.

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And two federal judges weighed in, one indirectly on the president's so-called anti-weaponization fund.

Chapter 8: How are retailers responding to the challenges of inflation?

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Explain, please. Well, the Kennedy Center issue is pretty straightforward. Congress named the cultural center 60 years ago, and the judge said only Congress can change the name. As of this moment, Trump seems ready to accept that decision, but he is likely to fight the other two this week regarding that special fund you mentioned set up by Kennedy.

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settling his lawsuit against the federal government. That fund provides nearly $1.8 billion to compensate people who claim they were pursued by the administration of President Joe Biden for their roles in trying to overturn the results of the 2020 election. This includes the rioters who breached the Capitol and sent the members of Congress fleeing in fear.

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And now one judge in Virginia froze those payments saying she needed more time to sort out the claims. But another judge has challenged the entire process. The idea that Trump could sue as a private citizen and then cut a deal with his own Justice Department, rewarding his allies with taxpayer money.

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DHS Secretary Mullen would like to cut custom staffing at international airports in so-called sanctuary cities. Department of Justice says that would include New York, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, Seattle, and more. What are the implications? Immigration hawks have long been critical of big cities that try to protect their residents from federal enforcement actions.

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Trump has been critical of the sanctuary policies as well. Yet this new salvo from Mullen, that's the former Oklahoma senator who now heads DHS, has brought howls of protest from the travel and the tourism industries as well as from the cities and states involved.

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Former Attorney General Pam Bondi testified behind closed doors in the ongoing congressional investigations into Jeffrey Epstein's misdeeds and associates. Ron, what stood out for you? First of all, her testimony was not taken under oath, but it was taken behind closed doors. Those are remarkable facts, given the gravity of the matter.

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Moreover, she refused to discuss Trump's role in the handling of the files. And then she said the issue had all been delegated to her deputy, Todd Blanch. The Todd Blanch who's now acting as Bondi's replacement. The Todd Blanch who made that deal on the $1.8 billion fund we were just talking about.

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And who heads the DOJ that's looking into civil cases that E. Jean Carroll won against President Trump in 2023 and 2024? What do you see in this news? It appears to be another example of Trump's fixation on settling scores, a grinding away at old grudges, searching for personal payback.

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And as a recurring theme, it's akin to the pursuit of personal glorification that we've seen the Kennedy Center renaming, the billion-dollar ballroom he wants, the new arch he wants, the $250 bill he wants with his picture on it. President Trump went to Medical Center at Walter Reed this week, his third trip in the last 13 months.

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