Valuetainment
“Epstein Was Murdering People?” - Ex-Epstein Employee EXPOSES Bizarre Bed Request
24 Mar 2026
Chapter 1: What disturbing details did the designer reveal about Epstein's island?
Have you guys seen what CNN showed when they worked with one of their interior designers? And not the interior designer. CNN played a clip this weekend. They went and interviewed this guy. who was the guy who was the interior designer. He would decorate a bedroom on the island for Epstein. This video went viral when they did this interview. I don't know if you've seen this clip.
Have you seen this yet?
I'm glad you haven't, Tom. I want you to see this. Adam, I want you to see this clip as well. Rob, if you want to pull it up, he sounds like a very, just an honest man who's saying, here's what I noticed, and I eventually have to say, I can't work for you anymore. Watch what he was talking about. Very, very parent.
very disturbing, not any disturbing visual, very disturbing what messages he's given. Go ahead.
They were bunk beds. And I said to him, I said, oh my God, are you expecting grandchildren? And he said, no, these are for my, these are for the girls.
That's architect and interior designer Robert Couturier. He was hired by Jeffrey Epstein in 2010 to work on his island. He worked for a few months and then he quit. Couturier told the FBI that one of the reasons he decided to quit were those specific demands from Epstein.
especially for the bunk rooms. They had to be for girls and pink and this sort of things.
So there's no mistaking this wasn't for women. There's no mistaking.
You don't put women on bunk beds. I'm sorry. There was another little room with computers and I said, what is this room? And he said, this room is for the girls when they have fun and they play with their computers. The whole house was very odd because we were on the beach and the house had heavy, dark curtains everywhere. The windows were never really opened. It felt terrible.
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Chapter 2: What was the significance of the bunk beds on Epstein's island?
Who knows what these – the dentist's office was – because, like I said this before, when you're sexually, you know, trafficking these girls and these young kids from all over the place and they're with a high-profile – person, client, whoever these people were, you cannot let them go back into the public knowing that I remember that face.
I remember that face because they become a liability and you got to get rid of them. And that's the sad truth. And on an island like that that had trap doors and the ocean is there and nobody, nobody monitoring him. I'm pretty sure he had all law enforcement, everybody in his back pocket. I think it's disgusting. And I think the fact that, you know,
Pam Bondi and all these people have shifted and nobody's even talking about it. I'm so happy you brought it up again. Just to keep reeling everybody to come back in. Do not forget about what this guy was. Do not forget about the people and the organizations that he worked for.
And please don't forget about the little girls and the women that were trafficked, abused, raped, and a lot of them potentially murdered. And that's the hard truth. Tom.
You think they were murdered?
Do I believe that they were murdered? 1,000%. You know what you say, don't say 100%.
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Chapter 3: How did the designer's perspective change after working for Epstein?
Adam, there's no way you could take a child, 13, 14, 15, 18, whatever, and have them hook up with Mr. X, who's widely known in the world. I'm not even going to say a name. You could just pick a name, and then you go, okay, little girl, go back to your country or go back to the United States or go back to being homeless, and we trust that you're never going to say anything.
I believe that, Adam, when you mess with evil like that, Evil does what evil does. Human life to us is so important, Adam, because we're not in that world. To them, it's expendable. And the way that you hear these emails and hear how they were talking about people and human beings, it's a sad truth.
By the way, I respect your opinion, but you mean that he's down there having parties, inviting women, doing whatever he is sexually, and then you think he goes and murders them?
I'm not saying all of them, but I think if the client was... One is too many.
I mean, if you're asking how many, let's say one. And why are there law enforcement digging in the dirt? But I'm curious, where are you going with this? You don't believe that happened?
Well, I'd love to hear his opinion and then I'll go.
You started the conversation. Then you went with it. You jumped in.
Let's remove everything we know about Epstein and just focus on this video. Because that's what you wanted to do, this video. This video is the least compelling video I've ever seen in my life. Because he has bunk beds? Let me tell you something.
With no kids?
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of the designer's claims about the girls on the island?
The girl said they're not for women. The guy said they're not for women. Some random gay French guy is like, I don't know why they bunk beds at all. I'm letting you know just on this video. If all you got is he got bunk beds, you can have literally 10,000 models in America say, yeah, I've slept on a bunk bed. Yeah, I've slept on a bunk bed.
Chapter 5: What evidence suggests complicity among powerful figures regarding Epstein?
By the way, you know where else they have bunk beds? You ever been to a college dorm? They got bunk beds everywhere. All I'm saying is this. We have to use discretion. If we're going to do everything and throw Epstein down, he's the devil, I get it. But if your only evidence is like, yeah, there's bunk beds, we're going to have to do a little bit better.
I think besides the bunk beds, Adam, and I understand what you're saying in this one video, this isn't, oh my God, this isn't blowing the lid off of everything. But when she's saying little chairs and little computers for kids to be playing, Epstein didn't have any kids. I do understand. I'll play devil's advocate. People did fly there, Luttnaker, whoever, came there with their children.
So I can understand that angle of it. But from what we've seen, from the droves of freaking emails and everything, and they're all talking code talk, With eating jerky and beef, $20,000 this and pizza this and pizza that. There's a lot of smoke. Adam, there's a lot of smoke, but at the same token, where are thousands of people were there?
Chapter 6: How does the panel debate the accountability of those who visited Epstein's island?
Thousands of people and multiple, multiple women. Where are they? They should be speaking out. Adam, if I saw, let's just say, figuratively speaking, allegedly, Bill Clinton, and I am one of these girls, and something crazy happened in front of me, you know what I'm doing? I'm going to go out there and I'm going to talk. Unless, Adam, she's not around anymore.
Because, Adam, did you see that video of trap doors under an ocean? Ready for this? They're not scuba diving down there. You take a body, Adam, and you just throw the incinerators. Hold on. Funeral parlor, dentistry. You pull out their teeth and you let them go. Hold on. Let me ask you one question.
Do you think Jeffrey Epstein, what we found out about him, has the power to do something where he's like, okay, listen, this person just hooked up with a freaking high-ranking prince or something. We got to get rid of her. Whatever. You don't think he's capable? He was capable of doing something like that? If he's this evil with hooking up with underage girls?
Obviously, like Pat said, one murder is one too many. There's a lot of... Well, there's bunk beds, so he's got to be murdering women. There's a trap door that he's got to be murdering. We go to the furthest extreme. Listen, this may be controversial. I think Epstein was a sick pervert who liked 16-year-old girls. That's my thing. And that's it? That's what I think he was doing.
And then I think he was using these 16-year-old girls and entrapping men, maybe blackmailing them. But there's no evidence that he's some weirdo who's going into baby cribs and doing stuff like that. The whole thing that he had with the massages, paying these high school girls $200, $200. By the way, these girls are complicit. They're recruiting other girls.
So what I'm saying is, yes, he's a scumbag. Yes, he's a piece of crap. But just because he has bunk beds doesn't mean he's murdering women. We need to have a little discretion here.
Adam, I have a lot. I disagree with that take. About bunk beds? No, about what you just said. About bunk beds? Just everything. I just think that's a really rough take. This guy is not a random French guy. This guy is a well-known architect that worked for CNN who was hired under a wealthy contract.
So now we trust CNN. Let him finish. Let him go through. Keep going, Tom.
What are you defending?
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Chapter 7: What theories are discussed regarding the potential murders linked to Epstein?
I'm not defending. I'm trying to find the truth here. Let him go through.
Go ahead. You know what? I could not be more disgusted. with what the story of Epstein. I could not be more disgusted. The documents that were withheld, but now we see them. The photographs that we never saw, but now we see them. And all the things it just says, it's exactly what it was. And it's not that the girls were complicit.
I don't think an underage girl that was groomed and recruited is complicit. That's what grooming and the crimes that go on there of recruitment, and that's why we have these crimes. That's why we have statutory laws to protect our young children. I could not be more disgusted with the entire story of Epstein and more disgusted day by day. I get more angry and I was angry.
I was getting angry inside watching this clip when he said two words, 16 years. So some time ago, he said he was interrogated. Some time ago, he talked to somebody, and nothing happened, and there was the sweetheart deal. The more we know about the sweetheart deal in the time that there is a way it could have been stopped, what do we say all the time?
Oh, this young troubled man, young boy, 17-year-old troubled boy, he got his dad's gun, and he went to school, and he did this. Why couldn't we have stopped it? Why didn't somebody speak up? We always play armchair quarterback and we want the Second Amendment laws and we want to seize people's guns. We want to do all that. But on this, we did have a chance to stop it.
But powers that be gave the guy a sweetheart deal and he went right back to doing his business. And when I see this guy who I regard as a credible witness, given his background and where he's going from, and I don't denigrate him in any way. And he says, 16 years ago, I was interrogated. It's all part of the, we had a chance to stop it.
And that is the part of this that I hate because it angers me. I've gone from disgusted to being more and more angry seeing where it could have been stopped.
So let me give you one thing that, this is why this show works because we have these types of conversations. And oh my God, I can't believe this. Oh my God, I can't believe that. That's why this works. That's why we have these conversations. So I don't mind that at all. The day the FBI investigation, what is it, 2018, the same day that happens, you order 330 gallons of sulfuric acid? Why?
I don't know. Why? What do you do with that? I have no idea. I have no idea what you do with that. There's so many things that we don't know about this thing. A lot of things that we know, we know plenty right now to... take the guy down. He's dead right now, but we know plenty of stories to take a lot of other people down that were tied to it.
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