Chapter 1: What recent developments have escalated tensions with Iran?
Have you guys seen what CNN showed when they worked with one of their interior designers? And not the interior designer. CNN played a clip this weekend. They went and interviewed this guy. who was the guy who was the interior designer. He would decorate a bedroom on the island for Epstein. This video went viral when they did this interview. I don't know if you've seen this clip.
Have you seen this yet? I'm glad you haven't, Tom. I want you to see this. Adam, I want you to see this clip as well. Rob, if you want to pull it up, he sounds like a very, just an honest man who's saying, here's what I noticed, and I eventually have to say, I can't work for you anymore. Watch what he was talking about. Very, very parent. Very disturbing. Not any disturbing visual.
Very disturbing what messages he's giving. Go ahead.
They were bunk beds. And I said to him, I said, oh my God, are you expecting grandchildren? And he said, no, these are for my, these are for the girls.
That's architect and interior designer Robert Couturier. He was hired by Jeffrey Epstein in 2010 to work on his island. He worked for a few months and then he quit. Couturier told the FBI that one of the reasons he decided to quit were those specific demands from Epstein.
especially for the bunk rooms. They had to be for girls, and pink and these sorts of things.
So there's no mistaking this wasn't for women. There's no mistaking.
You don't put women on bunk beds. I'm sorry. There was another little room with computers, and I said, what is this room? And he said, this room is for the girls when they have fun. and they play with their computers. The whole house was very odd because we were on the beach and the house had heavy, dark curtains everywhere. The windows were never really opened. It felt terrible.
The girls and the young women who went on the island were basic prisoners. You couldn't leave.
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Chapter 2: How credible are Iran's claims about long-range missiles?
But the idea that a person would go to that island and not see something weird is impossible to me. For me to have seen it, everybody else had to see it.
When you think back to how obvious it was to you, do you wonder about, you know, no one saying anything back then?
I've been wondering for the last 15 years if in 2010 I knew it and we all knew it and I was interrogated and nothing happened and that we could have saved so many young women that wouldn't have had to go through what they went through.
Vinny? I mean, do we need more proof of what this person was and what he was doing and potentially who he was working for and what the objective was? Do you know that Zorro Ranch, they're actively right now looking for dead bodies in the hills of foreign girls that were allegedly strangled and killed? This thing is so – I get there's a bunch of – In the New Mexico Ranch.
In the New Mexico Ranch. There's so much going on for bunk beds. I believe that guy. I believe that guy 100% what he's talking about and the fact that bunk beds, he's like, these aren't for women. These are for children. Who knows on that island, Pat? Who knows what the dentist's office was?
Like I said this before, when you're sexually trafficking these girls and these young kids from all over the place and they're with a high-profile – person, client, whoever these people were, you cannot let them go back into the public knowing that I remember that face. I remember that face because they become a liability and you got to get rid of them. And that's the sad truth.
And on an island like that that had trap doors and the ocean is there and nobody, nobody monitoring him. I'm pretty sure he had all law enforcement, everybody in his back pocket. I think it's disgusting. And I think the fact that, you know, Pam Bondi and all these people have shifted and nobody's even talking about it. I'm so happy you brought it up again.
Just to keep reeling everybody to come back in. Do not forget about what this guy was. Do not forget about the people and the organizations that he worked for. And please don't forget about the little girls and the women that were trafficked, abused, raped, and a lot of them potentially murdered. And that's the hard truth.
You think they were murdered?
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Chapter 3: What evidence suggests Iran's military capabilities?
You started the conversation. Then you went with it. You jumped in.
Let's remove everything we know about Epstein and just focus on this video. Because that's what you wanted to do, this video. This video is the least compelling video I've ever seen in my life. Because he has bunk beds? Let me tell you something.
With no kids?
With no children? Let me explain something to you, my friend. This is the beauty of living in South Beach and living in the nightlife world my whole life. Do you know how many apartments I know in Miami that are model apartments that have bunk beds? All of them.
All these women come down here and work for Wilhelmina or CMG or this thing or Kathleen Gleason, all these model M2, all these modeling agencies, dozens of them, dozens of them, okay? And they all have hundreds of models and they have a two bedroom apartment. So what do they do for all the models? Boom, eight models are living in an apartment. How are they gonna do that? Boom, bunk beds.
So if you're cheating to tell me, That because they got bunk beds, that Epstein is murdering people? Children suck at bunk beds. You're saying it's children. I'm saying they're models. Based on my experience. No, you didn't hear the interview. The girl said they're not for women. The guy said they're not for women. Some random gay French guy is like, I don't know why they bunk beds at all.
I'm letting you know just on this video. If all you got is he got bunk beds, you can have literally 10,000 models in America say, yeah, I've slept on a bunk bed. Yeah, I've slept on a bunk bed. By the way, you know where else they have bunk beds? You ever been to a college dorm? They got bunk beds everywhere. All I'm saying is this. We have to use discretion.
If we're going to do everything and throw Epstein down, he's the devil, I get it. But if your only evidence is like, yeah, there's bunk beds, we're going to have to do a little bit better.
I think besides the bunk beds, Adam, and I understand what you're saying in this one video, this isn't, oh my God, this isn't blowing the lid off of everything, but when she's saying little chairs and little computers for kids to be playing, Epstein didn't have any kids. I do understand. I'll play devil's advocate.
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Chapter 4: How does the panel interpret Iran's actions as a bluff?
Adam. There's a lot of smoke. Adam, there's a lot of smoke, but at the same token, where are thousands of people were there? Thousands of people and multiple, multiple women. Where are they? They should be speaking out. Adam, if I saw, let's just say, figuratively speaking, allegedly, Bill Clinton, and I am one of these girls, and something crazy happened in front of me, you know what I'm doing?
I'm going to go out there and I'm going to talk. Unless, Adam, she's not around anymore. Because, Adam, did you see that video of trap doors under an ocean? Ready for this? They're not scuba diving down there. You take a body, Adam, and you just throw the incinerators, hold on, funeral parlor, dentistry, you pull out their teeth and you let them go. Hold on, let me ask you one question.
Do you think Jeffrey Epstein, what we found out about him, has the power to do something where he's like, okay, listen, this person just hooked up with a freaking high-ranking prince or something. We got to get rid of her. Whatever. You don't think he's capable? He was capable of doing something like that? If he's this evil with hooking up with underage girls?
Obviously, like Pat said, one murder is one too many. There's a lot of... Well, there's bunk beds, so he's got to be murdering women. There's a trap door that he's got to be murdering. We go to the furthest extreme. Listen, this may be controversial. I think Epstein was a sick pervert who liked 16-year-old girls. That's my thing. And that's it? That's what I think he was doing.
And then I think he was using these 16-year-old girls and entrapping men, maybe blackmailing them. But there's no evidence that he's some weirdo who's going into baby cribs and doing stuff like that. The whole thing that he had with the massages, paying these high school girls $200, $200. By the way, these girls are complicit. They're recruiting other girls.
So what I'm saying is, yes, he's a scumbag. Yes, he's a piece of crap. But just because he has bunk beds doesn't mean he's murdering women. We need to have a little discretion here.
Adam, I have a lot. I disagree with that take. About bunk beds? No, about what you just said. About bunk beds? Just everything.
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Chapter 5: What implications do these missile capabilities have for global security?
I just think that's a really rough take. This guy is not a random French guy. This guy is a well-known architect that worked for CNN, who was hired under a wealthy contractor.
So now we trust CNN. Let him finish. Let him go through. Keep going, Tom. What are you defending? I'm not defending. I'm trying to find the truth here. Let him go through, and then you've been talking.
You know what? I could not be more disgusted with what the story of Epstein. I could not be more disgusted. The documents that were withheld, but now we see them. The photographs that we never saw, but now we see them. And all the things it just says, it's exactly what it was. And it's not that the girls were complicit. I don't think an underage girl that was groomed and recruited is complicit.
That's what grooming and the crimes that go on there of recruitment, and that's why we have these crimes. That's why we have statutory laws to protect our young children. I could not be more disgusted with the entire story of Epstein and more disgusted day by day. I get more angry. And I was angry. I was getting angry inside watching this clip when he said two words, 16 years.
So some time ago, he said he was interrogated. Some time ago, he talked to somebody, and nothing happened, and there was the sweetheart deal. The more we know about the sweetheart deal in the time that there is a way it could have been stopped, what do we say all the time?
Oh, this young troubled man, young boy, 17-year-old troubled boy, he got his dad's gun, and he went to school, and he did this. Why couldn't we have stopped it? Why didn't somebody speak up? We always play armchair quarterback and we want the Second Amendment laws and we want to seize people's guns. We want to do all that. But on this, we did have a chance to stop it.
But powers that be gave the guy a sweetheart deal and he went right back to doing his business. And when I see this guy who I regard as a credible witness, given his background and where he's going from, and I don't denigrate him in any way. And he says, 16 years ago, I was interrogated. It's all part of the, we had a chance to stop it.
And that is the part of this that I hate because it angers me. I've gone from disgusted to being more and more angry seeing where it could have been stopped.
So let me give you one thing that, this is why this show works because we have these types of conversations. And oh my God, I can't believe this. Oh my God, I can't believe that. That's why this works.
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Chapter 6: How does deception play a role in international military strategy?
That's why we have these conversations. So I don't mind that at all. The day the FBI investigation, what is it, 2018, the same day that happens, you order 330 gallons of sulfuric acid? Why? I don't know. Why? What do you do with that? I have no idea. I have no idea what you do with that. There's so many things that we don't know about this thing.
A lot of things that we know, we know plenty right now to... take the guy down. He's dead right now, but we know plenty of stories to take a lot of other people down that were tied to it. But you know how the court works, that they have to go a little bit deeper and deeper and deeper. Life changes. You know how Lindsey Graham says, send the kids. If it's going to be like a, what do you call it?
Yeah, go for it. He doesn't have any kids. So to him, what's the worst thing that he's going to have?
Nothing.
When you hold your kid and they're in your arms and the thought of something like that happening, you turn into a very different human being. you turn into a very different human being. There's a scene where Bill Burr is on the podcast with Joe Rogan, and Joe is talking about if something like that happened, Rob, have you seen this clip?
Type in Bill Burr, Joe Rogan, you know, where Joe, you know, says he would kill him or something like that, and then Bill says, relax, Joe, this is just a hypothetical, okay? And you see it. It is a very, very different story when you deal with families. It is a very different story when you're dealing with how, yeah, I don't know if you're going to find it here.
You may want to look for it on YouTube or Instagram. But I understand the emotions. And by the way, I like that more and more stuff like this is happening. I like the fact that CNN did this. Good for CNN for having something like this. I'm glad these types of conversations are taking place. Vinny, did you want to say anything before I go to Nick Shirley's story line?
No, no, no. It's just, you know, when you find out that this guy was working for two, three letter, well, a couple of agencies to do this, to record everything, to hold. That means they're all of them. All of them were cool with this operation. All of them for using it for leverage and to deny that just to think that they wouldn't. Want to kill these people? To me, that's a stretch.
To me, that is a stretch. I saw emails where they're saying, hey, we strangled these two girls. We're going to have to get rid of them on top of the Zorro Ranch.
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Chapter 7: What are the potential responses from Western nations?
We have to strangle them. They're foreign girls. We have to kill them. Because during a sexual thing that we had, the sex got rough. Who was in there? And they put Madam M and Jeffrey Epstein. So, like, it's real. It's real. And we're never going to find out the truth, Adam, because half the millions of documents, they're not going to release. They're still redacting male names.
And they keep saying, it's the victims. Nobody wants to see the victim's name. I want to see who Jeffrey Epstein is emailing saying, hey, we need to get rid of these dead girls. What are we doing?
Yeah. And by the way, I found the clip, Rob. If you want to play this clip. So this was a guy who walks up to a girl, young girl, gets angry, a bicyclist, And then just look at what happens to Joe Rogan's temperament, his body language. Look at this face, Rob. Not Rob, Adam. I want you to look at this. So go ahead and play this clip. Go ahead.
I was caught on video earlier attacking teenagers who were posting flyers. He just runs up to her. He's yelling at her. I mean, look, he's towering. Oh, my God.
Look at her, though. Good for her.
See, I don't know if that's a woman or her friend, but that girl's got balls or ovaries. I would be in the news. with a big old fucking orange jumpsuit on if that was happening to my daughter. Oh my God. It'd be a real problem. Yeah. Joe, it didn't happen to your daughter, right? I know, I know. You just went to a dark fucking place there. I go there all the time, Bill. We all do.
It's a real problem with me.
I know, I do too.
I go there all the time.
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Chapter 8: Why is this situation considered a turning point for Iran?
And to me, I get it.
There is a line that when you react like that, if you ever wonder why sometimes the audience gets furious with you, is, especially with this topic, that's a very sensitive topic, I hope one day you have a daughter. I think you will change, and I don't know why I think your first kid's gonna be a daughter, but I hope you have a daughter. By the way, it is the greatest blessing
but you will never be the same ever again.
Touché.
No, what I'm telling you, and I hope you experience that, because it'll show you what man is capable of doing if you cross the line with a man's daughter. It's over. You know, like the idea of prison, like... I hear you. It's not like a thing. So that sensitivity, everything that happened to these girls, these are someone's daughter, someone's niece, someone's cousin, someone's sister.
These are someone's relative that they went through this. And when you're 14, 15, 16 years old and you're very, what's the word, impressionable? Is that the word? And you're struggling financially, it is so easy to take advantage of in that moment. It is so easy to take advantage of in those moments. So, I mean, you have a nephew, but you don't have a niece.
But I think if you go through this next phase, God willing, you'll experience it. There were some really horrible things that happened. And look, I'm just glad that the media, and I'm glad that CNN, Fox, CBS, whoever it is, that is still in the pursuit of finding out what's going on with this. An example needs to be made. And I don't think enough examples have been made yet.
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