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“Lutnick Was On Epstein’s Island” - Trump Commerce Secretary UNDER FIRE After Photo Surfaces

28 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What controversy surrounds Howard Lutnick and Jeffrey Epstein?

0.031 - 19.926 Patrick Bet-David

Now, there's two things that needs to happen, in my opinion, because this is leading to Lutnik. And Lutnik, we've been complimentary of Lutnik. He's very good on camera. He's done a great job. He's built a great company, successful guy. And picture came out about him with Rob. I think you have the picture. There's a picture that came out. And nobody said, no, no, no, this is AI. No, this is AI.

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20.006 - 39.156 Patrick Bet-David

No, this is AI. No, this is AI. And then eventually they're like, are those two, maybe that's the one that he went with his wife and his two kids. Well, we don't see the wife and two kids. That is the island that has now been confirmed that that's Jeffrey Epstein and the white shirt and a white pants. And that's a Lutnik in the back with blue. Yes.

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Chapter 2: How is AI verification impacting the discussion around the photo?

39.377 - 59.704 Patrick Bet-David

Like that blue shirt. That's him in the back. That part's been confirmed. Everybody and everybody has been checking to see if this is a correct thing that happened or no, because nowadays you've got to definitely check to see AI. CBS has confirmed it. Grox confirmed it. A bunch of different AI platforms have confirmed it. Who knows? Something else may come out. Now, there's a few things.

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59.684 - 76.165 Patrick Bet-David

This could be the event where he took his wife and kids, and maybe his wife and kids weren't there. He said he was only there for an hour, so maybe they're the ones on the other side taking the pictures. Maybe. Maybe that's what's going on. But, you know, when you read the story, I'll read the story to you on page five, and I want to come to you guys on this one here.

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76.185 - 91.964 Patrick Bet-David

Oh, I cannot read it because printing didn't do a good job on it. But when you look at this story with Howard Lutnick, Rob, zoom in to see if I can read any of it. Okay, a photo printed of Donald Trump, Howard Lutnick. I've got to go a little bit lower. The picture shows the pedophile walking ahead of the financier at St.

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91.984 - 113.805 Patrick Bet-David

James Island, where they visited for a picnic with his wife and his children and his nannies. Okay, go a little bit lower. The picture was located by Gmail, a site run by two tech workers who have created a searchable version of Epstein's Gmail inbox by downloading all of the files. The group posted a link on it.

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113.785 - 131.659 Patrick Bet-David

to the image, which a DOJ file name, the file name was, et cetera, et cetera, does not match the results of DOJ's Epstein website, suggesting it had been deleted. So this was the controversy here, that they took it down. Now, why did they take it down? Is it because he's an insider? Is it because he's got a job? So that's the part where

131.639 - 138.329 Patrick Bet-David

You know, people start saying you're protecting him and they get credible. They get credit. They say, now you see what you're doing. Now you see what you're doing.

Chapter 3: What does the panel think about the accountability of elite figures?

138.35 - 163.371 Patrick Bet-David

Now you're protecting him. And some are even saying that Trump didn't know about it. The DOJ was doing it. And then it's making Trump look bad. No matter what it is, you know, in the UK, when this took place with, Andrew, Andrew, they not only, you know, dropped him from the family and now he got arrested. Right. And they're going after him as well as the other guy, Mandelson, Madelson.

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163.431 - 179.077 Patrick Bet-David

I don't know how to say his name. Another guy that had to step down. Yeah. Peter Mandelson that had to go through. So at this point of the game. There are certain things that you can just look here while you have a massive issue on this side. Sometimes you just got to go ahead on and talk about it and address it, make some decisions.

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179.117 - 184.969 Patrick Bet-David

So, Benny, I know you have some opinions on this Howard Lutnick picture that came out. And I know, Adam, you do as well. I'll come to you first.

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185.731 - 205.143 Adam Sosnick

So we were talking about Hillary Clinton a second ago. Now we're talking about Lutnick. you know, there's a cool club going on here in the world and you're not invited. And you know who also wasn't invited, it seems, is Donald Trump. Because all these people, all these names keep popping up. You know, every single one of them will be considered this one word. What's that one word? The elite.

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205.824 - 225.831 Adam Sosnick

And the one story that we hear about Trump was that the elite was no fan of Donald Trump. So what did Trump do was go out and build his own thing, put Trump on everywhere, went and bought Mar-a-Lago, had his own events. So Trump... Wasn't he the guy that kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago? Wasn't Trump the guy that was sort of blackballed by all the elite stuff in New York?

226.252 - 228.174 Adam Sosnick

That's why he came down to Florida, built his own thing?

228.314 - 230.998 Unknown

He did an interview with the police about him in West Palm Beach.

231.018 - 253.33 Adam Sosnick

There you go. So, by the way, all these names keep popping up. Okay, so Howard Lutnick actually did meet Epstein. It wasn't just he was creeped out when he met him before. What's going on there? Scott Besson was part of the Trump administration. Who did he work for for... A long time. Who was that? George Soros. So all these things are interweaving and it's all going on like that.

253.41 - 258.097 Adam Sosnick

But Vinny wants accountability. And here's the bad news for Vinny. Nothing's going to happen.

Chapter 4: What are the implications of the DOJ's actions regarding the photo?

308.077 - 313.827 Adam Sosnick

Give me a names and I'll tell you my opinion. Gates, no. Bill Clinton, no.

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314.588 - 317.551 Benny Johnson

I think somebody has to go to jail.

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317.652 - 320.095 Adam Sosnick

Anyone that has a B next to their name, a millionaire?

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320.115 - 320.635 Patrick Bet-David

Let me ask you.

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320.676 - 322.398 Adam Sosnick

Anyone that's been a former president?

322.418 - 324.621 Patrick Bet-David

I do not see them going to jail. Okay, so let me ask you.

324.641 - 326.043 Adam Sosnick

If you give me names, I'll answer them.

326.063 - 337.838 Patrick Bet-David

You think what Edward Snowden and Julian Assange did, do you think the modern-day Edward Snowden and Julian Assange are more advanced and better than they were?

338.172 - 338.693 Adam Sosnick

Well, of course.

Chapter 5: How does the media pressure influence political accountability?

426.15 - 435.763 Patrick Bet-David

He doesn't have a control over that because once the audience gets to a point, so you can, you know, once the audience and the pressure goes to a point, you eventually have to react.

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435.743 - 437.846 Adam Sosnick

Do you think the pressure is now higher than ever?

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438.087 - 438.848 Patrick Bet-David

Of course it is.

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439.028 - 440.15 Adam Sosnick

Than ever with Epstein?

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440.17 - 441.031 Patrick Bet-David

With this topic?

441.132 - 441.372 Adam Sosnick

Yes.

441.572 - 442.394 Patrick Bet-David

Of course it is.

442.414 - 443.616 Adam Sosnick

Why do you think it's so much higher now?

443.636 - 461.042 Patrick Bet-David

Do you think Hillary and Bill are going to let this go and allow them to be publicly humiliated? You don't know the crap theory. You don't think they're making calls saying, I swear to God. If you do this, I'm going to tell him about what you did that one time in D.C. I'm going to tell him about what you did that one time in Hawaii.

Chapter 6: What is the significance of Trump's relationship with Epstein?

546.541 - 547.502 Patrick Bet-David

Hillary and Bill? Yes.

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548.063 - 549.385 Adam Sosnick

They're business partners at this point.

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549.405 - 568.537 Patrick Bet-David

100% they're aligned. 100% because he's coming in today. So the way she answered, she answered as if she's not done anything wrong. That's not how the husband's going to do it. How many times has her husband been to the island? What are you going to do with that? We have photos of it. How many times did Epson come to the White House? No, she could play dumb. Of course. But he can't. I agree.

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568.557 - 574.273 Patrick Bet-David

So part of it here is, are you doing that to make yourself look good and make your husband look bad? I don't know.

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574.253 - 579.039 Adam Sosnick

No, I don't think you're married for 50 years and all of a sudden the last second you throw him under the bus. But you don't know that.

579.199 - 600.746 Patrick Bet-David

But you don't know that. I'm saying we're about to find out. But to me, the pressure is so bad right now that behind closed doors, they're saying we have to do something for optics purposes. And what is that going to be? So question for you. Do you think that picture being shown, is that going to do anything where, Rob, is the podcast doing fine? Yeah. Okay.

600.986 - 610.675 Patrick Bet-David

Do you think that picture being shown with Lutnick right there, you think that's going to cause the White House to an announcement coming out next week saying Howard Lutnick has decided to step down and spend time with his family?

610.775 - 612.257 Adam Sosnick

I don't think he can stay silent.

612.717 - 613.658 Patrick Bet-David

How do you stay silent?

Chapter 7: What are the potential consequences for Lutnick and other elites?

626.33 - 635.091 Adam Sosnick

He lied, apparently, apparently. And we're all fans of Lutnick. We like what he's doing. We're fans. You know, as they said, you got some explaining to do, honey.

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636.374 - 643.352 Unknown

Howard Lutnick had his Rafael Palmeiro moment in front of Congress. Yeah. Remember that? He shook his finger up there.

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643.372 - 651.002 Patrick Bet-David

I'd say less than 3% of our audience knows who Rafael Palmeiras is. He was a lefty hitter that hit 50 home runs a couple seasons. He was phenomenal.

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651.062 - 668.925 Unknown

He was phenomenal, but he was also called to be in front of Congress, and he waved his finger in the air about investigating on steroids, and then in the weeks that followed, he was exposed. They had the receipts from what he purchased. They had Paul DeLuca and other players talking about, wait a minute, what are you talking about? He bought here, he bought there, so...

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And now Howard Lutnick makes his moment in front of Congress, and this comes up. When you say no one's going to be accountable, I'm going to do something real quick, Pat, on Andrew, Prince Andrew.

678.22 - 683.468 Adam Sosnick

Remember, Andrew, as a royal— Just real quick, I didn't say not accountable. I said nobody's going to jail.

683.769 - 695.487 Unknown

Well, wait a second. Let me show you what's happening over there. First of all, Andrew is being semi-protected by his brother, not covered up by the king, but the king doesn't want—

695.467 - 719.879 Unknown

full fury right he doesn't want all this stuff and when the queen passed away william was unleashed and william in 2019 wanted his brother his uncle banished and last within the last four weeks he said he was not in a calm state when he saw the latest interview that um uh andrew did so here's what they did You can't prosecute royalty.

Chapter 8: How does the discussion evolve towards Hillary and Bill Clinton's involvement?

720.14 - 738.666 Unknown

That's the way it works in Britain. Whoops. Guess what, Pat? He's no longer royalty. They took his title. Then he could stay at the Royal Lodge. And they're like, no, we will not support you with dollars that way. Get out of the Royal Lodge. Now he's been moved out of the Royal Lodge. Then what did they do? They banished his royal duties.

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738.706 - 754.648 Unknown

So he doesn't even get to go to Switzerland and give them a bouquet of flowers if someone dies, right? On behalf of the royal family, we're sorry. You know, that's kind of what royalty does sometimes. So now you have all this going, the worst, it's going downhill. And now he's actually been served under arrest in question.

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755.048 - 776.537 Unknown

The noose is tightening around Andrew and William wants him out and prosecuted. And the heat is so great that you can see the British control systems who you normally boys will be boys and they give free passes to the monarchy. It's not happening. It's getting tightening. And the worst possible thing could happen to Andrew next would be that

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777.428 - 796.914 Unknown

The cancer, Charles succumbs to his cancer, and William becomes king, because then I think the door's open. He will be prosecuted, and I think it's coming for him. And I think you can follow that around the world, that the heat is getting so great. It's getting so intense. I think things are coming. To America, to people in America. I think it's coming, Pat.

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797.054 - 813.797 Adam Sosnick

May I respond to that? A year ago, I wouldn't have said that. So you said all that, that you outlined that Andrew's sort of going to be the first domino to fall and other things may happen. Here's how much I care about the British royalty and here's what's going on with Andrew. Zero. Zero. If it affects America...

813.777 - 829.373 Adam Sosnick

now we're talking if bill gates or bill clinton or any of the slick willies something happens to them now you have my attention if something happens to some weirdo former prince andrew albeit but if it affects america now you have my attention if it happens to some royalty or former royalty

829.353 - 846.484 Adam Sosnick

it doesn't do it for me andrew andrew's going to talk guys andrew's going to talk let me ask let me ask dinny if the only person head to role goes to jail held accountable and they string them up and put them in a noose is prince andrew but nobody else would you be satisfied absolutely not you know you know

846.464 - 862.92 Benny Johnson

Dude, we talk about this all the time. You know where I am with accountability in regard to Lutnick. I'm extremely disappointed, Pat. That's the one guy that I kept seeing and going, I like that guy. He's speaking the truth. He's trying to help America out. And Rob, can you show that photo of the dentist's office? There was a photo. There was like a mask.

862.9 - 882.816 Benny Johnson

On the dentist's office that we talked about two weeks ago, that looks, no, no, I'm not being dead serious. This was on the wall in the dentist's office on Epstein Island. I don't know that many people that look just like that and have that smile. So guess what? If you were caught lying, Adam, here's my thing, Pat. If you get caught lying, Adam, can I speak? Sorry.

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