Valuetainment
“Pahlavi Is A Zoom Call Leader" - Trump DOUBTS Reza Pahlavi As Iran’s Future Leader
17 Jan 2026
Chapter 1: What doubts does Trump express about Reza Pahlavi's leadership?
And so this last week, when you're talking about Reza Pahlavi asking the Iranians to go on the streets, this is an interview that he got criticized for heavily because in this interview, Nora, I don't know what her last name is. Is it Nora O'Donnell? Nora O'Donnell? Nora O'Donnell from CBS?
CBS. She's an incredible journalist.
That's a very good pointed question, Rob, if you want to play this clip. Go for it.
And as you are urging people to protest and go to the streets, the death toll is rising in Iran. This violent crackdown continues just as it has in past attempted revolutions. I mean, is it responsible to be sending citizens in Iran to their deaths? Do you bear some responsibility?
As I said, as I said, as I said, this is a war, and war has casualties. In fact, in order to preserve and protect and minimize the death toll, minimize innocent victims yet again be killed by this regime, action is needed. The regime is going to try and brutalize its citizenry, as it has always done. But we are in a fight for liberation.
I didn't ask the people to come to the streets to fight against the regime because I wanted so. They asked me to step in to help them and to be their voice on the outside world, to do everything that we can so we make this uprising successful this time, and I think we have
some serious leaders that understand what is necessary, that understand the ask of the Iranian people and are responding to that. I think President Trump is responding to the call that the Iranian people have. The Iranian people have heard his words.
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Chapter 2: What criticisms does Reza Pahlavi face regarding his call for protests in Iran?
They are naming streets after him in Iran. You can pause it right there.
There's a difference. So when President Trump and his team watches this, what do you think they say? Do they say, this is the guy we can get behind and help Iran be free again? Or do you think they say, I don't know if he has it or not? I don't know. Do they look at this and say, this shows strong leadership?
Do they look at this and say, this guy's going to be able to go and win the people over and do that? I don't know. Here's what Trump did say. The president said, Trump praises Iran Exile Royal as very nice, but doesn't go as far as fully supporting regime change bid. Okay, Rob, is this the Hugh Hewitt clip? We've seen this one already. So I know this one here on him saying this.
If you want to play this one more time, you can go ahead and play the clip. It's only 30 seconds.
Would you meet with Crown Prince Pavlai, who is the heir to the constitutional monarchy? He doesn't want to rule. He would be a symbolic ruler like King Charles.
Well, I've watched him and he seems like a nice person, but I'm not sure that it would be appropriate at this point to do that as president. I think that we should let Everybody go out there and we see who emerges. I'm not sure necessarily that it would be appropriate.
So that's Hugh Hewitt. Now, this is an interview with Reuters on Wednesday that this is a different interview. In an Oval Office interview with Reuters, he said that while Reza Pahlavi seems like a nice guy, Trump wasn't sure the Iranian population would accept the crown prince as the country's leader.
The conversation happened moments after Trump appeared to pump the brakes on an American military intervention, something the president has been threatening for weeks. as the Islamic regime has brutally cracked down on widespread protests. He seems very nice, but I don't know how he'd play within his own country, the president said of Pahlavi, and we really aren't up to that point yet.
I don't know whether or not his country would accept his leadership, and certainly if they would, that would be fine with me. Trump said it was possible that the government of Iran's supreme leader, Ali Khamenei, could fall amid the demonstrations. Though added, in truth, anti-regime can fall. Whether or not it falls or not,
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Chapter 3: What factors contribute to Trump's reluctance to fully support regime change in Iran?
THEY'RE TOTALLY RIGHT WING. THE MOST CIVILIZED EDUCATED IRANIANS HAVE LEFT. AND IT'S THE SAME THING WITH VENEZUELA. IT'S THE SAME THING WITH CUBA. If we're going to be installing puppet governments and holding them up and we have to protect them, let's start with our hemisphere and see how it goes. And then maybe we can get back.
And also, let's also remember that this is all Jimmy Carter's fault.
Are you joking or are you being serious?
It is all Jimmy Carter's fault. I agree.
I fully agree with you there.
Totally. And what was his name? Richard Falk at Princeton who promised everyone, don't worry, the people will vote for Khomeini. It will be wonderful. The people's revolution.
There's your Princeton professor for you. Yeah, I've seen that as well.
Look, we've seen it in our government. When a nice guy that should be an ambassador or should be in a think tank becomes president, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, you have problems because you need leaders in times of crisis. And this guy happens to be the son of the prior leader. That doesn't make him that gives him proximity.
That doesn't give him the presence, the power, the personality and everything he needs to lead. And I think he appears to be a very nice man. He appears to be, you know, ambassadorial. He's got certain presence. But is he ready to go into this beehive and to do what's necessary to lead it through it? I don't think so.
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Chapter 4: How does the panel discuss the implications of a 'Zoom-call leader' for Iran?
The meaning is the more and more that people have been around him, they recognize he ain't that dude. That's what Tom is trying to show. I get Tom Kornacki. Go ahead, Adam. Why do you think that is, Pat? Sincerely. The more you spend time around him... Let me ask you a question. It fell before that.
Yeah. Let me ask you a question, though. Here's a question. Let's just say, do you think... for Iran to go through their revolution, a country that any day anybody complains about the Second Amendment, if Iran had Second Amendment, none of this stuff is happening right now, by the way.
If Iran had Second Amendment, if the Iranian people could defend themselves, you think the cops going out there with a shotgun shooting people free? No, like you realize in America, if something like that, you know who would be the first one coming out? Mongols, Hells Angels, biker gangs, they're going to come out. So what are you doing? Do you remember that one time?
I think the George Floyd, if I'm not mistaken, riots was going on and they decided to go to Huntington Beach, if I'm not mistaken, in LA. That is correct. The biker gangs rolled up and said, come on, come through us. And they're like, change of plans. We're leaving this place. We're going to go to different places. Second Amendment in America. Phenomenal.
Chapter 5: How do the speakers assess the current situation of protests in Iran?
Phenomenal. Every single day you should be thankful the fact that we have that in America. Was this it, Rob, when they were trying to do it?
Yeah.
Protests when all of a sudden like, no, you're not going to come through here. Forget about the cops. The biker folks showed up and like, yeah, we'll skip today's deal. So but let me let me go back to this.
To have a revolution happen in a country like Iran, against a regime like IRGC, Islamic Revolutionary Guard, in a society where it's like the supreme leader, the phrase they use, their supreme leader, their supreme... American journalists say their supreme leader, their supreme leader. What's his name? His name is Khamenei. It's not your supreme leader or somebody else.
That's their supreme leader, right? Khamenei. What do you think you're going to need to do if you're in America as an outsider? Actually, say you are part of Trump's advisors and somebody brings a guy in who's sitting right in front of us right now interviewing to be the leader of Iran to go through the transition. What five questions do you have for him if you want to support him?
Are you moving to Iran? Are you willing to move to Iran? So let's just say that's one. And he says, of course, but he's been here for 48 years.
Are you willing to put your life on the line and die for this cause?
Is that really the real question?
I don't think that's the real question. What percentage of people support you?
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