Valuetainment
“Still Hanging Around” - Michael Wolff SHARES Epstein’s FINAL Cryptic Message Before His Death
19 Aug 2025
Chapter 1: What was Epstein's cryptic message before his death?
Did you guys talk about how he makes money? I mean, how he originally made his money? Yes, we did.
And that's always, you know, I think that that's one of those aspects of his life that was very compartmentalized. I mean, I've had this discussion with him, but do not feel that I... I certainly didn't feel that I was getting the whole story quite... Quite the opposite. It was rather.
He was he kind of teased you with the story, you know, at I mean, he told me once he said when I pressed him, you know, and I said, OK, tell me, come on, where it is, where does the dough come from? I mean, I've seen him in many instances. I never saw him, however, do a lick of work. So what was going on? Where did this come from?
And he said, and I remember he said, again, in a very teasy kind of way, he said, well, I run something like a reverse Ponzi scheme. In a real Ponzi scheme, you make money that does not exist appear to exist. In my Ponzi scheme, I make money that exists appear not to exist.
And the example was, if you're a very wealthy person and getting a divorce, and if you hide $100 million or at least make $100 million of your wealth disappear, you've just saved $50 million.
Yeah, there was a guy that Mark Epstein told me that was... Epstein's mentor, I don't remember the gentleman's name. He went away and he was in the, Stephen, what's his name? Stephen Hoffberg? Is Stephen Hoffberg? I don't know if you know about, okay, yeah. So did that name ever come up or no between the two of you?
You know, it came up in the – Hoffenberg, who Epstein had been involved with, and Hoffenberg had an insurance company that collapsed, and Hoffenberg went to jail for a long time, like 15 years. And then he got out of jail and he started to press Epstein for what I don't exactly know. But but it was that was something I was aware of going on in the in the background.
Now, Mark Epstein, just by the way, you know, had also not been really. his relationship with his brother was at best strained for quite a number of years.
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Chapter 2: How did Epstein describe his financial operations?
He said that as well. He said that as well, that they were not as close. I said, you guys live a few minutes with each other. How often do you guys have dinner or lunch together? Not that often, maybe once every couple of years. I'm like, you're a few minutes away. So that was a very interesting dynamic as well, the relationship between.
In my understanding of that, and I don't have a complete understanding because that was not something that Epstein seemed to want to talk about, was that his brother distanced after Epstein's legal difficulties beginning in 2004, his brother, like Ghislaine, distanced himself from Jeffrey Epstein.
So two people who he contacted last before he passed away. One of them was his German girlfriend who was Karina.
She was not German. She was from, as I understand, and I mean, I had met her a few times from Belarus.
She was from Belarus. We got to get this right because, you know, the guys, her name is Karina Shulyak. Karina Shulyak. Belarus. Belarus. Okay, so from Belarus. And I said, German, forgive me to all the people from Belarus. I didn't want to offend you. So he calls her last one, but he texts you last. What were the last text exchanges with him?
And exactly how much longer after his last text to you did he die?
Yeah, you know, I think that he, I mean, and he, it was not a text really, it was, it came through his lawyers, so he couldn't text. He was given, they had gotten him the clearance to call the girlfriend. But my, the message to me had come through one of the lawyers. I mean, I knew the lawyers and I passed them a message.
I said, you know, I mean, just the message that I sent to him was, you know, you know, how are you doing? Or, you know, just that kind of.
That kind of thing and and his response to that message was unless the context of this is that's about a week before he had apparently tried to hang himself or that's what people said or again a confusing situation, but his response to me was quote still hanging around. So how are you still hanging around?
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