54: The Words We Cook With
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Why did the host apologize for naming the recipe the “Snigger Bar”?
Last week a whole load of us made the delectable Snickers bar recipe, which if you're listening now in twenty twenty six and the week of the first of June, you can still get the recording for free. So contact me or go to the show notes www.com. V-E-E-T-S.com.au forward slash 54 and get the recording for the free Snickers bar class, or you can book into the Living Well program if you are not. That's an online collective. If you are not listening to the recording on the first of or the week of the first of June 2026, and you can find that recipe in that program. Yeah. Anyway, With the whole Snickers Bar um class, I made a big boo-boo, which caused a big stir over on Instagram. And that is this has prompted me to make a public apology and to talk about appropriate kitchen terms and also talk about some fun witchy ingredients that we use in the kitchen quite often, in fact.
So take a listen. I've already said where the show notes are and yes. Stay tuned 'cause this is an interesting podcast, a bit different to my other podcasts.
Mm. Hello, I'm Big Karen, a nutritionist and vegan cooking course facilitator. I'm recording this podcast in Mwullumbah, Northern New South Wales, Australia, on the beautiful lands of the Mingambul people of the Bunjalung Nation. The intention of the Vegan Cooking and Nutrition Podcast is for me to share with you lots and lots and lots and lots of tips and tricks. In order for you to cook well, so you can eat sensational food and live your most awesome life. So let's get started!
You know, it was interesting last Wednesday before I did the free class um on the Snickers Bar class, Mac was looking at my um newsletter that I sent out and he said, You know, every week you say you had a r have a had a really good week in your newsletters and it's true. But last week was not one of those weeks. It was a the the free class was awesome. All the classes I taught with my wonderful participants in my programs was fabulous. But there were a few things that left me a bit stumped. One of them was the death of a very beautiful friend.
What is a “dog‑whistle” term and how did it relate to the Snigger Bar controversy?
And yeah, um I won't go into that too much because I will I will start to cry. But um and the other one was when I got off the call from having a brilliant class teaching the free Snickers Bar class, I got off and checked on um Instagram and I saw that I had caused quite a stir. And so I'll go into what happened. So in two thousand and eighteen I made a fabulous raw version of the famous Snickers Bar. And at the time I called it Snigger, a Snigger Bar, as I thought to snigger meant to laugh a bit offhandedly, you know, in an a sly sort of way. I thought it was a Q pla play on words. You know, I wasn't calling it a Snickers bar because I didn't want to take on the famous name, but I was having a little bit of a laugh about it.
However, I did not at all think it was a term that is used as a racial slur. It may not have been in 2018, but these days, while snicker still remains a term in the dictionary for laughing a little slyly, most people choose to use the more American term to snicker. I had no idea until I came off the class teaching this amazing treat to a whole load of comments calling me racist. I had called it the snigger bar class, ha ha ha, but actually that is a term that is used for in racist um posts. So I was mortified. There was no part of me calling this bar sniggers to offend anyone at all. If anyone knows me well, I do my utmost to make people feel incredibly included and I hate to see people treated badly.
I really do apologise if it has caused any offence. I had no intention ill intentions at all. I removed all my posts and let the people who had signed up for the class know that I changed the name to Viet's Snickers Bar. To be honest, I felt sick to the stomach. A kip a couple of years ago I'd learned of the term um dog whistle. And so in dec in discussions, do you know what dog whistle is? So um yeah, so in I'd been to a lecture and an online lecture and dog whistle is um it comes up, it's a word or phrase or symbol or message that um appears ordinarily.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
Why did the host apologize for naming the recipe the “Snigger Bar”?
0:00–2:29
2
What is a “dog‑whistle” term and how did it relate to the Snigger Bar controversy?
2:29–5:10
3
Which kitchen terms are being renamed to avoid racist or sexist connotations?
5:10–7:31
4
What are the Indigenous Australian names for common ingredients like macadamia, tamarind, and plum?
7:31–9:51
5
Why is the term “blind bake” being replaced with “pre‑bake” in modern cooking?
9:51–12:12
6
Which traditional “witchy” ingredients are mentioned and what do they represent?
12:12–14:10
7
How can you make a vegan, organic Vegemite substitute called “Tejumite”?
14:10–16:40
8
How does cooking together in the Living Well collective enhance the vegan cooking experience?
16:40–19:25