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HTDE: Sheets and Blankets

01 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.503 - 5.974 Julio Torres

On NPR's Wildcard podcast, Julio Torres says he doesn't need to prove himself to anyone.

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6.295 - 9.582 Unknown

When someone makes me feel like I have to prove something to them, I just walk away.

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10.223 - 11.265 Julio Torres

Really?

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11.285 - 16.095 Unknown

I'm like, seek help.

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16.115 - 21.887 Julio Torres

Watch or listen to that Wildcard conversation on the NPR app or on YouTube at NPR Wildcard.

25.478 - 28.723 Peter Sagal

Hey guys, it's Peter once again in your Wait, Wait feed.

Chapter 2: What issue are Kevin and Rebecca experiencing with their bed covers?

28.803 - 50.018 Peter Sagal

I am so pleased to present to you another episode of How to Do Everything by Wait, Wait producers Ian and Mike. Now remember, you can only get these episodes of How to Do Everything in our feed for a short while. So if you love the kind of mysteries that Mike and Ian are revealing, make sure you subscribe to How to Do Everything at their own feed. Thanks.

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50.993 - 70.76 Ian Chillag

Hey there, Kevin and Rebecca. What can we help you with? This is an issue that's been going on for a long time. But we have this thing where we go to bed at night, and we have lined up our sheets and blankets in a way that works for both of us.

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71.44 - 73.163 Rebecca

We make the bed. I mean, the bed is made.

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73.183 - 99.505 Ian Chillag

We make the bed, right. The bed is made. And it's been reset, and everyone is happy. And then when we wake up the following morning, almost without fail, like I would say 90% of the time, the sheet is pulled towards Rebecca and the blanket has been pulled towards me. Whoa. And so she only has sheet and I have blanket.

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100.406 - 120.742 Rebecca

Well, and, and in my, I would also say in my defense or in my, well, actually not my defense, I should say my interest is I'm, I'm a, I'm a marriage therapist and we wake up in the morning sometimes and we're actually like angry with each other. I'm like, why did you take that whole why'd you take the blanket? Like, what's your problem?

120.842 - 134.258 Rebecca

You know, and so it it has sometimes some residual frustrations in the morning, which, you know, I'm sort of like, why do we even have strong feelings about this? How is this happening? I don't know how to make it any better.

134.677 - 150.897 Mike Danforth

Yeah, it's fascinating. I mean, plenty of couples, there will be one half of the couple who steals everything. But whatever is happening between the two of you while you sleep, I have never heard of anything like it before.

151.118 - 161.571 Ian Chillag

Yeah, the layering of this makes this very difficult to understand how it happens because the blanket would be harder for me to access and pull in my sleep.

161.591 - 163.072 Rebecca

Well, there's a comfort area too.

Chapter 3: What insights does the marriage therapist provide about the cover stealing?

427.677 - 433.804 Mike Danforth

So you might go back and build the bed in the lab and experiment with how bamboo sheets might work.

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434.184 - 446.219 Carlo Cattogno

Yeah. I mean, I would even say to just see what would happen if you changed the bedding, if you tried different sheets. Yeah. All of that could have a different effect on how your body works. you know, adheres to the material.

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447.12 - 461.3 Mike Danforth

If you were on this case and the first time you sat down with Kevin and Rebecca, would one of the questions you asked them be, do you have any enemies, anybody out there who would want to do you harm? Would that be a question you would ask?

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461.801 - 476.96 Carlo Cattogno

In this particular circumstance, I don't think we'd need to go that far. But, you know, in the interest of being as thorough as possible, you know, I would ask that. But this case is pretty, to me, seems very solvable.

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477.561 - 489.342 Ian Chillag

Yeah, it does, doesn't it? I imagine in a lot of stakeouts, it's just a lot of dead time. You're just hanging out. What are you going to be eating or drinking during this time?

489.541 - 514.331 Carlo Cattogno

So the stakeout, I mean, if they want me personally there to have a human eye on it, that's a different story. That would be a first. I've never been invited into a client's bedroom for a week. But if I were to, I would be very respectful. I wouldn't eat or drink while they're sleeping, and I'd try to be as quiet as possible to them. minimize any disruptions and affect any of the results.

515.512 - 520.158 Ian Chillag

Well, Carlo, thank you so much for helping us help Kevin and Rebecca.

520.198 - 543.343 Carlo Cattogno

Oh, I mean, I would love to help Kevin and Rebecca. This would be a pleasure to work on. Many of the cases that I'm working with unfortunately involve a lot higher stakes, but this one seems like a fun one. It seems like it's solvable, and it seems like it's something that I would be able to definitely provide some answers to Kevin and Rebecca on.

544.024 - 549.188 Ian Chillag

And if nothing else, we can invest in a $30 nanny cam, which may solve all our problems.

Chapter 4: How do Ian and Mike analyze the couple's sleeping arrangement?

560.578 - 568.165 Unknown

Hi, I need to buy a camera. Sure. So I'll connect you with our photo department here in just a moment, please. Thank you.

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572.077 - 573.839 Kevin

B&H Photo, Wilson speaking.

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574.44 - 585.614 Ian Chillag

Hey, Wilson, I'm in the market for like a nanny cam. Is that something you could help me with? Nanny cam? Like a camera that you can like set up in a room and monitor?

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586.795 - 594.445 Kevin

I got it. Okay, not me. You probably want to speak to our surveillance people who handle that stuff. Could you hold on one minute, please? I can get you to them.

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596.988 - 600.312 Rebecca

This is Ezra in the surveillance department. How may I assist you today?

600.983 - 624.788 Ian Chillag

Hey, Ezra. We're looking for, I guess you'd call it a nanny cam. What are the prices on an entry-level nanny cam? Like a hidden camera? It doesn't have to be hidden. We have a situation where we're trying to monitor people sleeping overnight. Gotcha. Do you have Wi-Fi at the location? Yeah.

625.068 - 625.168

Okay.

625.553 - 635.669 Mike Danforth

We're trying to investigate if a couple who is stealing the covers in a married couple, will this have a wide enough sweep to capture all that action?

637.511 - 663.751 Ian Chillag

So the camera that I typically recommend, sorry, I put in the wrong part number. What was it? Right, it was the 120. Okay. Okay. Okay, so the camera that I typically recommend is got like a 100 degree horizontal field of view. So if you mount the camera as close to the corner as you can of the room, you'll see the entire room. And it's going to be dark. It's nighttime.

Chapter 5: How does the detective suggest investigating the cover mystery?

1041.433 - 1063.086 Mike Danforth

They didn't tell us, but she wears a sleep mask. Yeah. Which only would enable Kevin to do his bidding without her knowing. Oh, that's true. Yeah. She's technically blindfolded. Yeah, we've got this very, very surveillance-y kind of fisheye lens and a very good view of the bed, although it cuts off the very bottom.

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1063.126 - 1070.458 Mike Danforth

So if anything is happening with feet, if feet are the culprit here, we're not going to know.

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1070.778 - 1078.971 Ian Chillag

Basically, the view that we have is if you had a TV that was across from your bed, like in a hotel room, if the TV was watching you.

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1078.951 - 1107.304 Mike Danforth

sleep that's the view we have here and i think that in any hotel room that's a pretty good bet is that there's a camera on the tv watching you oh okay i see some foot movement from kevin i think and a moth just flew by the camera too did you see that yeah some sort of moth or specter oh there it is again all right it feels like a separate problem but kevin and rebecca your room is haunted

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1108.668 - 1122.23 Mike Danforth

What a lot of people who listen to our show don't realize is that for every question that is sent to us, we ask people to send us a video of them sleeping to help us better answer their problems.

1122.651 - 1132.916 Ian Chillag

And I got to tell you, you know who's a sound sleeper is Autumn's. I'm not getting any audio, so it's pretty quiet. Pretty quiet in the room.

1133.638 - 1144.243 Mike Danforth

I think we just assume she's making a honk shoe sound. We can actually go ahead and add a little bit of that. Okay, that helps.

1144.223 - 1150.109 Ian Chillag

That leg movement, though, without any... Oh, now there's some arm movement. Okay, hold on. Here we go.

1150.129 - 1150.189 Mike Danforth

Oh!

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