Send us Fan MailShow Notes:1:35 Patrick McGranaghan’s background 2:45 McGranaghan’s work with Pierre Valentin3:05 focus on collision of culture and infrastructure4:45 “evidential fog” around AI in the arts6:00 abstract nature of these AI issues 7:00 his writing on these issues to navigate these issues8:30 EU’s AI framework “recognizes the structural nature of the problem” – can’t be minor updates to old copyright debates, “AI creates problems of scale, opacity and jurisdictional arbitrage that traditional legal categories do not solve very elegantly.” 10:00 incentive for jurisdiction shopping11:40 Getty v. Stability AI in the UK 14:05 EU AI Act’s extraterritorial obligations 15:00 EU AI Act, Article 53: general purpose models brought into EU must comply with EU copyright law, including opt out reservations; and detailed summary of training data17:55 UK’s approach is more exposed to loopholes19:25 opt in versus opt out systems21:35 Kadrey v. Meta 22:55 the burden placed on creators by the opt out system 25:45 sporadic licensing deals and unclear remuneration standard27:30 interoperability 28:40 impact of robots.txt31:15 Alan Robertshaw re: impact of AI on the practice of law34:50 AI defamation cases36:20 McGranaghan - need for lawyers regardless of AI37:25 Robertshaw - legal professions’ varied approaches to AI38:55 AI and astronomy40:30 moral conflict with not compensating artists43:00 justices/injustices related to AI46:45 market harm created by AI49:25 definition of justice 53:05 protections that artists can use, e.g., robots.txt, metadata, units based protection, Glaze and Nightshade 58:00 mark Patrick hopes to make around AI and art Please share your comments and/or questions at [email protected] by Toulme.To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected]. Thanks so much for listening!This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]

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