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#3109 RHOSLC S613 Part Two: Agreek to Disagreek

10 Dec 2025

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Chapter 1: What are the highlights of the Real Housewives trip to Greece?

0.402 - 4.025 Ronnie Karam

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29.326 - 61.982 Ronnie Karam

So, Heather's like, last time I heard about Todd... He was looking at lingerie pictures on his iPad and sleeping at a hotel. So now they're happy monogamous and Bronwyn would never dare clutch my pearls thinking of hooking up with a Greek man. I just, I can't keep it straight.

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61.962 - 76.405 Heather Gay

So she was like, well, let's be fair. She said, Bronwyn, I noticed you're not wearing your wedding ring. Is there something you want to announce? And you were like, well, Todd moved out and I was really hooked into that story, Bronwyn. Are you taking back the story? I really loved it.

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76.606 - 83.637 Ronnie Karam

Yeah. And I'm not wearing my wedding ring today. And I don't wear it a lot of times because I wear different jewelry all the time. So I don't really know what you're trying to prove here.

84.338 - 88.425 Heather Gay

So that was all a ruse that that whole conversation you had with Whitney? Yeah.

88.912 - 99.947 Ronnie Karam

No, no, no. You might have added two plus two and gotten five there. Maybe it's your math that's off when you're just trying to repeat the things that I said. I think you got your math wrong. Two plus two equals five. Unfortunately, no.

99.967 - 119.989 Heather Gay

Well, just to be fair to Bronwyn, the conversation really was Bronwyn saying, we don't have an open relationship, but I'm open to having an open relationship. But even in that conversation, she was so wiffly waffly about what she was saying. It sounded like she did have an open relationship but wasn't ready to admit the open relationship.

120.009 - 127.536 Heather Gay

And her and Whitney were kind of talking around the fact that they're both probably fucking other people at this point. But they wouldn't go that far on camera.

Chapter 2: How does Bronwyn's relationship status impact the group dynamics?

127.676 - 140.147 Heather Gay

So the whole thing was kind of confusing. But also, even though I think Bronwyn's being a liar and she's being ridiculous and it's getting on my nerves, I still am like, Heather, it's not really your business. Like, she can talk about that when she wants, you know.

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140.127 - 163.587 Ronnie Karam

it agreed and you're right. Bronwyn said, we are open to being open. We're open to having the, I'm open to having the conversation, but that's just too nuanced for the likes of like Heather and Whitney. They just hear like open. That's all they hear. So it just, it, I guess it's funny because sometimes she's totally inconsistent sometimes where she's like,

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163.567 - 183.027 Ronnie Karam

like girlfriend here's how it is and i said to todd you better get to the motel am i right high five everyone and then suddenly she's like she becomes muslim she's like we're not going to talk about that it's true everything's fine yeah it's true and the the reason i'm going to still kind of stay on her side even though i think she's full of and they're right

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183.192 - 202.199 Heather Gay

is because once again, here we have someone kind of refusing to do what they want her to do. And so they're gonna turn on her in public, right? So we have Whitney who's like, nah, nah, nah, because now she's mad at Bronwyn for releasing the information about the conversation she had had with Meredith. So it's just what they did with Meredith.

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202.219 - 217.109 Heather Gay

They're like, Meredith, you wanna come against Lisa with us? And she's like, no. So then they turn on Meredith and say she's a drunk on a plane. Then you've got Whitney going, OK, well, I'm going to talk to you about this thing I'm about to do to Meredith, accusing her of being a drug addict. And then she goes and tells Meredith.

217.189 - 225.67 Heather Gay

And so now we're going to get you about your open relationship because they could be asking Whitney the same thing. Like who you fucking you were sitting there talking about an open relationship to.

226.105 - 242.711 Ronnie Karam

Yeah. I also think that there's probably an element where Bronwyn does not want to discuss any of this in front of Lisa Barlow because Lisa Barlow was the one who was like, Todd, it's like cheating and like farting while making out. And I don't think that she remember because I was like that broke the truce that they had made.

242.771 - 261.526 Ronnie Karam

So I also think that like maybe she would be down to like go into this more if it was just like, Heather and Whitney and Mary, or I don't know, or whatever. But I think knowing that she's in the presence of Lisa, who's going to like use anything you say in her mind, use anything you say against you. She's like, I'm not talking about this here at this table.

262.007 - 264.432 Ronnie Karam

This is, this is not up for discussion right now.

Chapter 3: What conflicts arise between Heather and Whitney during the trip?

406.572 - 411.717 Heather Gay

Am I taking crazy pills? Well, kind of, cause you're exaggerating something. That's not the truth.

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412.844 - 438.892 Ronnie Karam

Bronwyn, I was not there. So I didn't hear any of this. I also am hard of hearing one. Okay. Just want to remind everyone, but I've stood in your shoes. So I support the position that you're in, but from my past experience, this is probably not the end of it with this group. I'm just telling you that that was my experience. And maybe next time you might want to pack an easy breezy bling.

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438.992 - 440.033 Ronnie Karam

That's it.

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440.215 - 449.306 Heather Gay

Not only will it not end, you're going to start seeing TikTok dances about Todd wanting to look at porn on his iPad.

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451.288 - 469.53 Ronnie Karam

There was no judgment on my end. I mean, you were very open about it. Oh, no, you can judge me. That's fine, too. That's fine. I'm totally, like, chill with you judging me. As you can see, I'm totally, totally chill. Well, what I want to know is if Lisa Barlow is going to hook up with the Greek guy. God, look at that. Bringing levity to situation.

469.51 - 481.401 Heather Gay

That I made tense. And Lisa's like, um, you know what? John, it's Russian, German, Joe, and I'll just stick with that. That's, like, enough. That's, like, three different kinds of guys that can buy me a Porsche.

482.604 - 484.228 Lisa Barlow

I'm, like, so sick of Greece.

484.512 - 501.842 Ronnie Karam

So now they go back to the villa and they have to be ready at 6.45 because they're going to go shopping and go to dinner in town and everything. So everyone's getting ready and Heather knocks on Mary's door and Heather's like, okay, all right, let's close the door for this conversation. I don't know what's going on with Meredith.

502.163 - 506.47 Ronnie Karam

For someone that I feel like I have such a good relationship with in this sisterhood,

Chapter 4: How does Meredith's peace offering affect her relationship with Heather?

506.45 - 517.711 Ronnie Karam

It blows my mind that you can make little cutting comments and call me a liar and never really, like, truly apologize and make it right. We just move on like nothing ever happened.

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518.132 - 538.07 Heather Gay

Could you just make that shorter? Sure. So I'm coming into your room to enlist you to have a fight with Meredith by proxy so I don't have to. Oh, OK. Got it. Jesus, I'm bored. It's like, oh, my God, this fight's so stupid. So Meredith has pulled Heather aside. She wants to talk one on one.

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538.17 - 549.829 Heather Gay

But Heather's not interested in one on one because she says that Meredith will twist and turn anything she says in private and make it into something else, which is what I've been accusing Heather of this whole season.

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549.909 - 557.725 Ronnie Karam

So I'm like, OK, yeah. Heather wants witnesses and she also wants to have like the primary fight of the episode. So, yeah.

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557.746 - 567.608 Heather Gay

And she wants everybody to fight Meredith for her because if it's just her, you know, she's she's not going to win. She needs everybody there, you know, beating the one person down. That's how she rolls.

568.077 - 582.679 Ronnie Karam

So Heather's saying basically, basically like by not engaging with me, she's actually dismissing my friendship. And Mary says, well, okay, well then say it to her face. I mean, you need to be more direct and tell her how you feel because she listens to you. She goes, well, I don't know what to say to her because I've been so direct and she takes it as a personal attack.

582.699 - 592.313 Ronnie Karam

I mean, every single time I tell her that she's, you know, totally unreliable and she's a monster on a plane and she should have been locked up by TSA. She just take that as a personal attack. It's ridiculous.

592.293 - 601.184 Heather Gay

It's crazy. I like how she says Meredith won't engage. She's engaged with you every single time you brought it up. You just don't like the answer, which is you're a liar.

601.965 - 617.203 Heather Gay

And so Mary's like, well, I was raised to tell people how I feel and be honest, but I don't think that these women are capable of being able to just say how they honestly feel just because they worry about things that don't matter, like other people's feelings. Just kidding. I'm a preacher. Did I just say that?

Chapter 5: What role does Lisa play in the group's tension?

677.952 - 687.384 Lisa Barlow

That's a really nice brush. Wait a second. What do you have there? Is that a pencil? Can I see the pencil? Oh, my God. Such a nice pencil. Do you have a Cartier watch? I know you didn't because you're not a copycat. I love you so much.

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688.325 - 698.659 Heather Gay

So they just leave Lisa. And now they're walking down the street in Greece. And Whitney's like, should I put my thumb out? Wait. Maybe that's offensive in Greek.

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699.5 - 722.363 Ronnie Karam

And then she just falls. She just falls. She wipes out. Like, actually... I am impressed that A, she didn't rip anything. She didn't have any like scrapes or wasn't bleeding. I mean, that was like, she wiped out half on asphalt, half on gravel. I mean, I feel like, and of all the times that Heather could have made a joke, be like, wow, she's so unsteady in Utah.

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722.383 - 733.32 Ronnie Karam

We should have known that when she came to Greece, wow, where are the Greek gods to help her now? I mean, she was sliding down to Hades with the way she felt. I mean, like, this is like a Heather moment. She didn't even say anything.

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733.3 - 739.07 Heather Gay

So some hot guy comes and helps her up. And Whitney's like, Heather, a hot guy came and saved me.

739.09 - 764.807 Ronnie Karam

If you were driving, if you were on those motorists and saw Whitney wipe out for no good reason on the side of the road, could you even imagine? Could you even imagine just seeing Whitney wipe out on the side of the road? I would honk. She's like, I want to – Wait, everyone. I want to do – this is my new visual presentation of what happened to Wild Rose Beauty.

769.252 - 793.551 Heather Gay

Why haven't we mentioned Prism? Where is that? So I'm just curious. Why haven't they mentioned that yet? Is Prism part of the Wild Rose – No, because Wild Rose Beauty is a beauty product, and then Prism was the jewelry line where she was buying everything from Alibaba and then marking it up times 200 or whatever. That was last year's thing. So anyway, Angie's like – or two years ago.

793.591 - 810.904 Heather Gay

I don't remember. So Angie's like, I wonder what Lisa's doing now. She's probably still in Clem. And Heather's like, how long does it take to do glam? And they're all like, oh my God, it took me two seconds. And Whitney's like, yeah, I did my own glam with Heather's makeup. I'm like, oh yeah, you guys are all so ridiculous.

810.944 - 818.438 Ronnie Karam

You all do glam, just stop. Well, to be fair, Whitney does look like the Joker. She has like a lipstick going up to her cheek.

Chapter 6: How do the ladies address past grievances at dinner?

1139.058 - 1155.683 Heather Gay

How are you? Love that. Guess what? I'm basically Greek now. I am Greek. I've been all over Greece. It was amazing. Did you guys see the sunset? Look, I took selfies in the sunset. And it's so funny because while they were showing the ladies like, oh my God, we're bonding and Lisa's so shallow, not bonding at all.

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1155.743 - 1164.021 Heather Gay

It kept cutting to Lisa walking by herself, just taking selfies at the sunset or like taking selfies in front of the store, just having the best time of her life.

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1165.385 - 1186.161 Ronnie Karam

I can't figure Lisa out like what really matters to you, the glam and the material things or your friendships. I mean, you guys are all shopping right now. I don't know if you're like angry that Lisa's missing out on shopping in Santorini. Like, I can't believe she cares about material things more than us as we shop for material things. Yeah, exactly.

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1186.141 - 1206.529 Heather Gay

I love that I got to explore parts of Santorini by myself because I found some killer Birkenstocks and there wasn't any negativity. You know what? I love a little me time. And it's great because the Birks were like the only style that's ever been sold of this particular Birk. So I've already got Birks that are better than everyone else's Birks. My Birks are great.

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1206.509 - 1230.913 Ronnie Karam

i love her santorini broken stocks so lisa is like yeah by the way like look i use this as like glam and spell like look at this is this nice like it's me it's a selfie of me and when he's like is that your wallpaper yeah make it my wallpaper so we can keep seeing it isn't that great of course she has a selfie of herself as her wallpaper

1231.028 - 1248.7 Heather Gay

Well, did you see any beautiful views? Yes, I did. I just showed it to you. It's on my wallpaper. Stupid. So Angie's like, I mean, the fact that she would be, what, two, three hours late and then be in sunglasses, that's just odds.

1249.22 - 1265.765 Ronnie Karam

I mean, I do think that sucks. I don't like that Lisa showed up three hours late to like a shooting and also being with your friends. Like that is like, I think that you, I understand wanting to have alone time, but you use the designated time for your alone time. I don't know. I think three hours late is too late.

1265.946 - 1273.978 Heather Gay

I do that all the time on trips where I'm like, okay, I'll see you later. I'm going to do this other thing. And then I meet up with my friends later and no one, no one yet has had a fit about it.

1275.224 - 1292.243 Ronnie Karam

I feel like on, on like a group trip, if I say guys, I'm going to do my own thing. It's like, fine. I kind of feel like on a real house. So I've show just being like, I'm going to go. I don't know. I, I don't know. I, I think if you, if you're going to be like, I'll meet up with you. And then you're three hours later. I don't know.

Chapter 7: What comedic moments occur during the dinner conversation?

1368.94 - 1378.452 Ronnie Karam

Or like if Angie said, we're going to meet at 645 and she says, okay, sure. But then she has no intention of it. Like, I don't like that personally. Well, we didn't have to say that.

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1379.512 - 1381.496 Heather Gay

Oh, okay. So they go up to dinner.

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1381.596 - 1385.164 Ronnie Karam

Did we see Lisa say that she was... What did Lisa say? Nothing.

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1385.384 - 1397.79 Heather Gay

She was in glam. She's like, bye. Okay, bye. They're like, we're leaving you. And she said, okay, bye. I don't know. I don't think it's that deep. But I can see where you're coming from, how that would get annoying.

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1398.023 - 1402.208 Ronnie Karam

Well, as someone who has been plagued on a lot by people in my life, it's a trigger for me.

1402.989 - 1417.168 Heather Gay

Okay. Well, you're allowed to be triggered. Okay, so then they go up to go to dinner, and Meredith is like, oh, well, Angie just wants to make sure we stay skinny. And that's why we're climbing up this big hill to go have dinner.

1419.07 - 1421.854 Whitney Rose

Easy breezy, beautiful blazer.

1422.239 - 1433.963 Ronnie Karam

Thank God for the blazer. So then we see that Meredith has also bought a bracelet for Heather as a peace offering. A necklace. She puts this box. It's a necklace.

1433.983 - 1443.403 Heather Gay

And you know what? It's scary because we all know what this means. This is an evil eye necklace. And anybody who watches Real Housewives of Orange County knows how dramatic this actually is.

Chapter 8: What unresolved issues linger as the trip comes to an end?

1587.616 - 1589.238 Heather Gay

Do it before appetizers. Just go.

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1589.859 - 1611.929 Ronnie Karam

Heather's like, well, when I opened my necklace and I put it on, which I love Meredith, Bronwyn kept saying it's a peace offering from Meredith. I did say that. Yep. Yep. I did say that. Well, you seem very, I don't want to use the wrong words, but tense with me. And I said, well, I'll bring her a gift as a peace offering.

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1611.949 - 1631.07 Ronnie Karam

Because if I do seem to remember, they gave many gifts in the feature film, Crazy Rich Asians, which I did watch. And I think that's a nice thing. And if you don't think it's nice, then don't keep it. But it's up to you. I mean, I was just trying to be a nice person because I think we can all agree. I'm a nice person on airplanes and on land.

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1631.05 - 1644.526 Heather Gay

I love when Meredith does like her victim shrug thing where she's like, well, hands up. I'm trying to be nice. If you don't want it, you don't want to keep it. I'm just trying to be nice.

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1644.786 - 1647.69 Ronnie Karam

You can leave it.

1647.71 - 1670.074 Heather Gay

So Heather's like, well, first of all, I'm not rejecting the gift. I'm just saying let's talk about it first. Well, I wasn't looking to do it as a group, Heather. And Andrew's like, well, we are here. We are quick. And Meredith's like, well, I called you and I reached out again this morning. So shrug and hands up. I did everything that I could do.

1671.255 - 1679.123 Ronnie Karam

She wants to start this with the group to rile people up to start on me again. And it's clear that Heather doesn't have respect for our friendship.

1680.824 - 1684.308 Heather Gay

So she just stays very calm. She's definitely doing the what?

1684.728 - 1698.288 Ronnie Karam

She's doing the like, I'm just being a good friend, being innocent, good friend, good friend. She's totally doing that thing like, well, you know, I tried to buy her a yacht and she wouldn't accept it. So what else can I do?

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