Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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Chapter 2: How does Odoo help streamline business operations?
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Chapter 3: What are the benefits of using Retool for building internal tools?
I'm committing. I like that. I don't click on those things. I just do command space. I'm going to do that too. I'm going to hide my dock. Is this something we can all agree on?
Because I'm a Raycast guy. I was going to say, the real end to this whole debate is everyone has way too many tabs open and just do whatever you want. Not man. I thought it was fun.
Yeah, that's the whole reason I liked Arc in the first place because I have way too many tabs open and it closes them for me. You don't want Arc. You want an AI browser owned by Atlassian.
Thank you.
Yeah, what is up, people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm Marques. I'm Andrew. And I'm David. This week, we've got NASA coming back from the moon. Sick. Chrome adding vertical tabs, which we can talk about if they're actually better or not.
Samsung messages shutting down, Anthropic Project Glasswing, and how ANC to headphones is causing potential safety issues, and how a car company's trying to fix that. And we'll end it all with Andrew's whoop rant.
Part two. Part two.
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Chapter 4: How does Framer enhance website creation for businesses?
I also put ands like four times in there, so it just sounded like you did a really run-on sentence. That's my fault.
Hey, it's the intro. It's got to be a run-on. But first, did they even test this?
I have a really fast one. No one's on Pixel right now, right? So none of you have experienced this.
I have moved on to greener pastures. Nah.
Nah. Mine's greener. Mine's greener for sure. It's pissier, yellower. The new flashlight quick setting is driving me insane. This only happens in Google Quick Settings and only if it is the 2x1 tile width. Hyperspecific. So pressing the button, if you press just the little tiny circle of the flashlight icon, it turns the flashlight on.
But if you press the whole thing, the setting comes up, which is flashlight strength, which I think is a good setting. And it turned on. It turns it on, but then you can either press turn off or done, and it stays on. I think the more specific... adjustments should be the little button and the big button should just be on and off. Every time I turn this on, I get a menu setting and I hate it.
And I think if you want to be specific, that should be the smaller touch real estate. 100%. Okay. You know what that reminds me of? Thank you. I wonder if anyone else is having it. No, that makes sense. Because everyone I've asked to test this presses the little button, and I'm like, am I insane?
I mean, that's fair, but regardless, like a bigger touch target should be the more common use case.
The more general thing, right?
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Chapter 5: What are the advantages of using vertical tabs in web browsers?
You can have as many tabs as you want. You'll never run out of room. You don't run out of vertical real estate because your tabs are only a slot. Horizontal tabs just make sense for a vertical browsing experience on a widescreen monitor. Agreed? Agreed.
All right. Agreed in that scenario. But, question. Well, okay, there's more scenarios in this. One, do you guys use your Mac dock on the side?
It's at the bottom. What's a Mac dock?
Actually, on my desktop, it is on the side. It's on the side.
I know it's on the side.
That's crazy.
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Chapter 6: How does the Mac dock placement affect browsing experience?
Why would, why not? If it's widescreen and it's vertical.
I don't really use my dock.
Why don't you write it on the side? I see what you're doing. Yeah, it's the exact size.
No, no. I think Marques might win this one because- Well, because he does use it.
Adam uses it on the side also.
What? No, no, no. I used to use it on the side too, but the icons are square. And so it doesn't matter what direction, whereas writing is horizontal.
So you can- No, no, but we're talking about width of screen real estate and that a general webpage is vertical. This is something David Pierce says also. He says- Precious vertical- Yeah, virtually every modern computer display is widescreen. Most web pages are taller than they are wide. So if you're reading in a thing, you don't need the width of space.
I don't agree with that. I think the idea is that if you have something that is larger in the horizontal dimension, then you'd want to stack it vertically because you lose less information per page.
I think it's even simpler. It's, I have more horizontal pixels, so I will waste more of them on tabs. I have less vertical pixels, so I want to scroll less by having less things wasting my vertical pixels. Something you guys are disregarding is the magical ability to hide your tabs.
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Chapter 7: What is the significance of Chrome's new vertical tab feature?
Arc, this is my goaded arc setup. Hidden tabs. Yeah, you swipe, okay, the active page, you swipe over, and then your tabs come out. There's something so funny about you not doing that with your dock. What do you say you don't use your dock? Well, I don't really use my dock. You can hide your dock.
Exactly, you should hide your dock.
Yeah, I should. I never thought about that.
You should definitely hide your dock.
But, okay, this is the Go to Arc setup. You have two windows. Arc does have a feature where you can have, like, two, it's one window, but you have two separate pages, but that's...
lame can i pause you right there really fast okay because that's what i wanted to say everyone's talking about width of screen real estate i put two windows up so now yeah yeah i don't have that much screen real estate now in two windows if you're not doing his goaded arc setup if you have two windows with vertical tabs now you're taking up so much space but there's and you have this huge buffer in between they get hidden you're very specific scenario come on most people hide the tabs in art
This whole article is about Chrome. Yeah, because Chrome sucks.
I think by default... You don't hide your tabs, right? No, I don't. So if you have two browser windows... Sorry, I feel like I'm interrupting a lot here, but I don't want to miss specific things we're talking about. If you have two browsers open side by side, so now it's tabs, article, tabs, article.
I do that sometimes. You do that? On a widescreen monitor, it's still fine. There's enough horizontal pixels. On your 32-inch monitor. Well, it's wide. But what about your 14-inch MacBook? There are people who use ultra-wides. Anyone who uses an ultra-wide cannot possibly justify not using horizontal tabs or vertical tabs. Yeah, for sure. You've got to use vertical tabs.
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Chapter 8: How does the Skoda Duo Bell improve cyclist safety?
Can you do an MPBHD video? Yeah. It's two by one, though, if I switch to.
Yeah, which is why it would be.
Oh, okay. Oh, that's what you meant by two by one. Yeah. So this is a bluey phone review. And so now there's, this is about, ooh, almost perfect, but there's still extra horizontal space. Okay, now get rid of it. Same size video.
Oh, you're right.
Same size video. Hide my tabs. I got plenty of horizontal pixels to work with here. Yeah. It's all about the vertical space. That's it.
If you want, you're recommended. If you're outside of theater mode, it does. Oh. Okay, that kind of screws my point up there.
Yeah, the video is the same size. So I'm a big... I agree with David Pierce, I think. I'm going to read his article, but I assume he's saying precious vertical pixels. You need those.
Yeah. I did do a super, super scientific test, which is I took a screenshot of my browser with horizontal tabs and vertical tabs. I brought it into Photoshop. I took total pixel size and took a percentage of space inside my browser window and how much it's taking up.
Okay, but...
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