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Glennon and Abby on Finding Family Success, from IMO

Sun, 18 May 2025

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Recently, Glennon and Abby had the pleasure of being guests on a new podcast from our dear friend Michelle Obama, called IMO. You know on WCDHT, we have insightful conversations that give fresh perspectives, uplift you and leave you feeling more fulfilled. And on IMO, Michelle and her big brother Craig Robinson bring candid perspectives to the everyday questions shaping our lives, relationships and the world around us. Each week, they’re joined by a guest to tackle real questions from real folks just like you offering practical advice, personal storytelling, and plenty of laughs. In this episode, Abby and Glennon join to help an IMO listener figure out priorities when deciding where to move her young family. Glennon discusses why she moved her family seven times, and, as the “bonus parent,” Abby shares what she thinks is most important to their kids’ happiness (hint: It’s not unlimited cake-pops, though she’s tried). Plus, Michelle and Craig share their own stories of uprooting families for careers—including a very strange move to a big house in Washington, DC.  You can find more episodes of IMO at https://lnk.to/imomichellecraigGD To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What is the purpose of the podcast IMO?

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Jeder Läufer kennt diesen Moment, wenn es einfach klickt. Wenn deine Beine einfach mitgehen, der Schmerz nachlässt, die Zweifel weg sind und du nur noch das Runners High spürst. Das ist der Grund, warum du so früh aufstehst. Warum dich ein bisschen Regen nicht aufhält. Warum Laufen zum Ritual wird. Also laufe und fühle das Runners High. Go Wild und erfahre mehr übers Laufen auf puma.de

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39.718 - 61.213 Abby

Hallo, Podsquatters. I'm sharing something special in your feeds this week. Recently, Abby and I had the absolute pleasure of being guests on a new podcast from our dear friend Michelle Obama called IML. Okay, it took me like months to get how cool Okay. Okay. Okay.

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78.172 - 97.226 Abby

Each week they're joined by a guest and they tackle real questions from real people and they offer practical advice, personal storytelling and lots of laughs. Their topics range from dating and relationships to family and friends and they really get vulnerable and tell stories that we haven't heard before.

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97.326 - 119.764 Abby

As someone who does this work with my beloved sibling, it is so cool to see the side of Michelle that Craig brings out. It's one we haven't seen before. Very special. So in our episode, which was so much fun for us, we responded to a listener's question about where to move her young family, where to live.

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119.804 - 143.145 Abby

And Abby talked a lot about what she thinks is most important to our kids and families' happiness. And Michelle and Craig shared stories from their childhood and growing up and then having to answer the question, should we live in the White House, which is a question we have not yet had to face. Alright, y'all. Here comes the preview. You can find more episodes of IMO wherever you get podcasts.

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Would we be changing our answer if it wasn't New York?

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Well, I'm biased. I think New York is just a hard place to live. I don't, you know, no offense to New Yorkers, but man, you know, I mean, I just, when I'm in New York and I see people with strollers and little kids, I just think, it's dirty down there. Pick them up. Pick them up away from the dirt.

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I am so excited to be here with you.

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Very excited. It's good to see you.

Chapter 2: What challenges do families face when moving?

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She's looking at the side of my head wondering, what is he talking about?

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But it is fun. This is our first joint project, really. I mean, ever in our lives. It's been just you and me. But we're glad to have you guys here. We've got a really fun, not fun, but a question that is kind of familiar to all of us. We've all sort of dealt with this as parents and good-natured people trying to figure out what's the best thing to do for family and kids.

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Yeah, and we've got a question from a listener named Shira. Let's take a listen.

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Hi Michelle and Craig, my name is Shira and I'm 43 years old. My husband and I have lived in New York City for many years, but after having two children in the last five years, we decided to move to rural Maine for more space and more affordable living. However, now that we've been here for a couple of years, it no longer seems like the right choice.

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We're isolated from a large network of friends or any family, and there aren't as many career opportunities for our professions. I have my own handbag company and my husband is a film editor. On one hand, moving back to New York City doesn't feel like a long-term solution. I want to provide an anchored home base for my children.

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And the city doesn't really feel sustainable, especially without affordable childcare. On the other hand, there isn't really any other city that offers a surefire support system for our kids' care. Our parents are in Massachusetts and California, and they're aging. And our siblings' families are just too busy. And there still isn't a better place for our joint careers other than New York. Okay.

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So a lot of meat on the bones here.

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A lot of meat. Gang. This is a great question because I feel like I talk about this all the time. Not so much in my personal life, but we have young staff and many of them are starting to marry and build their families and Das ist etwas, mit dem sich jeder beschäftigt, besonders in diesem Tag und Zeit, in dem die Menschen so transzendent sind. Und es gibt so viele Möglichkeiten und Möglichkeiten.

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Vergangen sind die Tage, als du in der Nachbarschaft wuchst, in denen du geboren wurdest, eine Hausaufgabe von deiner Mutter gekauft hast, zur Schule gegangen bist, um die Kante gegangen bist. and spent your life in one neighborhood. We're now all over the place. And so what does that mean for families? And how do you make decisions?

Chapter 3: How can parents prioritize happiness for their kids?

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Wow, with all of them, you would buy mine.

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1828.458 - 1835.044 Abby

So, but Glennon, luckily she was there and she put the kibosh on that. Yeah. But I don't know why I went down this road.

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No, but it is about the parenting. And sometimes I did overkill on the parenting of trying to be normal to the extent that one time Malia was on punishment for a semester. Mm-hmm. I mean, it was too much, right?

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1851.156 - 1856.198 Abby

It was a whole semester. I mean, did she do something? Like, did she murder a human?

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She was a teenager. No, she didn't murder a human. She did teenage stuff. But this is, you know, every time something happened and there are teenagers in the White House, I'm thinking, oh my God, this is a sign that they're going to be on the street. They're going to be addicts and this is really going to mess them up. So I got to put down the hammer, right? Mm-hmm.

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Und so war der Hammer bei diesem Verbrechen, dass man für ein Semester gegründet wird. Und es fing nicht als Semester an. Zuerst war es ein Monat. Und dann habe ich sie ausgelassen. Und dann hat sie keinen Abfall gemacht oder so etwas gemacht. Und, weißt du, ich habe diese Lektionen und diese Schmerzen.

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Und, weißt du, meine Älteste, die sehr süß war, sie hat verstanden, wie man mich anschauen kann und ich sage, du hast recht, Mama. Ich weiß nicht, was in mich hineingekommen ist.

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You're so right.

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She just sucker me. And it's like, I'm gonna think about that. You have one of those. And I'm just like, this kid. Then I was like, you're just, you're punking me. So now it's a semester. Yeah, yeah. And Barack is trying to, he's trying to be the president, but also trying to be a good parent. And he's like, yeah, whatever your mom says. Although he's looking at me like, semester?

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