Trauma therapist (and survivor of marriage to a narcissist) Caroline Strawson joins us to discuss: how to know if someone’s really a narcissist; how to know if you’re more likely to get into a relationship with a narcissist (and avoid it); strategies for parallel parenting with a narcissist; how the brain and body respond to narcissists; and how to rebuild after ending a relationship with a narcissist. CW: Abusive relationships, self harm For more related episodes, check out: Episode 170 The Most Radical Way to Heal: Internal Family Systems with Dr. Becky Kennedy, Episode 169 Why We Love the Way We Love: Attachment Styles with Dr. Becky Kennedy, and Episode 142 Codependence: How to Stop Controlling Others with Melody Beattie About Caroline: Caroline Strawson is a Trauma Therapist and Coach specializing in helping others heal from the trauma and shame of narcissistic abuse. She hosts the Narcissistic Abuse & Trauma Recovery Podcast and is the #1 best selling author of Divorce Became My Superpower. Having been married to a covert narcissist herself, Caroline was in debt, lost her family home, and was at rock bottom with PTSD, depression, anxiety, and self-harm. Caroline integrates Internal Family Systems, Somatic Experiencing, Brainspotting and breath work with positive psychology, to help others move from post traumatic stress to post traumatic growth. TW: @cstrawson11 IG: @carolinestrawson To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to We Can Do Hard Things. Today, we're going to learn about narcissists. What types of people tend to end up with narcissists? How we can spot narcissists in our life? We are going to try to narcissist-proof ourselves during the next hour. And to help us with that, we have a wonderful, fascinating expert. Her name is Caroline Strawson. She's a
She's a trauma therapist and coach specializing in helping others heal from the trauma and shame of narcissistic abuse. She hosts the Narcissistic Abuse and Trauma Recovery podcast and is the number one bestselling author of Divorce Became My Superpower. I feel you on that, Caroline.
Having been married to a covert narcissist herself, Caroline was in debt, lost her family home, and was at rock bottom with PTSD, depression, anxiety, and self-harm. Caroline integrates internal family systems, yay, somatic experiencing, yay, brain spotting and breath work with positive psychology to help others move from post-traumatic stress to post-traumatic growth. Ew, post-traumatic growth.
I like that reframe. I do too. I've never heard of that. yeah it's great it's a positive psychology term we use where we actually go on and lead an even better life because of the trauma you've been through it's phenomenal it's a real passion of mine yeah i love that i love that i already feel like i've learned enough so that's it yeah
Okay, let's put the kettle on. So narcissism is a term that people throw around casually, but it's a real thing, like ADHD, like gaslighting, depression. It's a condition, a real diagnosis, but it's also, it's on a spectrum. So what are some of the characteristics of someone who is on the narcissism spectrum?
Can you tell us so we can avoid them when choosing friendships and romantic relationships? Please help us.
I know, I know. God, I'll help myself here. I think it's a really interesting concept when we talk about narcissism, because it is a diagnosable condition. It's listed in the DSM, along with lots of other mental health disorders. And in the DSM, they list nine traits. And to be diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder, you have to have five or more.
The problem being, though, with medicalising narcissistic personality disorders, a number of things. One, It's only five traits of nine that you are supposed to get the diagnosis. And actually, it's over 30. It isn't just this linear nine things that you would get if you were a narcissist. There are many because there's many different types of narcissists too.
The other problem with making it a diagnosis, and I see this online, you know, with a lot of my posts on Instagram. Are they diagnosed? Now, the problem is, and I'm sure we've all encountered narcissists, no narcissist will ever go, hey, do you think I'm a narcissist? I need to go and get a diagnosis. That was my question. No, no. Are narcissists diagnosed secondhand? Is it an indirect diagnosis?
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