1. Why Emily couldn’t stop crying (and it wasn’t because she was emotional). 2. The intervention that got Emily sober – and why Amy wasn’t there. 3. Glennon admits something that she’s never told anyone before. 4. Amy and Abby agree on the shared cost of internalized homophobia and misogyny. About Indigo Girls: One of the most successful folk duos in history – Amy Ray and Emily Sailers aka THE INDIGO GIRLS – has recorded 16 albums and sold over 15 million records. Committed and uncompromising activists, they work on issues like immigration reform, LGBTQ advocacy, education, and death penalty reform. They are co-founders of Honor the Earth, a non-profit dedicated to the survival of sustainable Native communities, Indigenous environmental justice, and green energy solutions. Their latest record, Look Long is a stirring and eclectic collection of songs that finds Indigo Girls reunited in the studio with their strongest backing band to date. IG: @indigogirlsmusic, @emilysaliers & @amyraymusic TW: @Indigo_Girls, @EmilySaliers & @AmyRay To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Okay, welcome to We Can Do Hard Things. We're just going to just begin because Abby and I just got in a huge fight.
Abby. Wait, are you serious? Yeah. No, we didn't get into a huge fight, but she's been a little bit on edge this morning. She literally shushed me a little bit ago because I came back from workout and oftentimes my volume is a little higher. Anyway. And so just recently, as we sat down, I said, are you upset with me? And she said, no. What did you say?
I said, no, I'm not upset with you. I'm freaking the fuck out. I'm having a nervous breakdown because we're about to interview Amy and Emily and I can't stop thinking about it. I have dressed up as if I'm going to a ball. Like I haven't dressed up for two years. Like what is wrong with me? I said, we have to just start this. We have to start it because I'm, so I don't run away. Okay.
Why are you nervous?
Yeah. Oh, well, that's a good place to start. I don't know. I'm nervous because if they're, are two people in the entire world who have meant more to me artistically. There aren't any more people who are, see, I'm doing great. I'm crushing it and completing sentences. So when I was getting sober, I was 25 and I had just decided that my feelings were too much to feel.
So I just numbed myself out forever. And then I found out I was pregnant. So I had to figure out how to human. And I still thought I couldn't feel my feelings or I would die. So I was freshly sober. And when I got sober, I was almost dead. I was like in a very bad place. And I used to practice being human. I would start one of your songs.
I would allow myself like the four minutes of one Indigo Girl song. And I would lay on my bed and allow myself to feel feelings for those four minutes and And for the first month, two months of sobriety, that's, I would say, you don't have to feel any other time. Just those four minutes.
And do you think that I have spent a single day of our lives, like since I got sober for 20 years without listening to you all?
Not one.
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