We Might Be Drunk
William H. Macy w/ Sam Morril & Mark Normand - We Might Be Drunk Podcast
04 May 2026
Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
All right. Hey, folks, here we are. We're back. We might be drunk. We got the great Bill Macy. Hello. Hello, Bill.
This is awesome, man. Yeah, I just watched Train Dreams on his recommendation. You're amazing in it. Oh, thank you. That was awesome.
Wonderful film. I loved it. It's the little film that could. It went all the way to the Oscars. I know.
Crazy. And not much happens, but I was hooked. Yeah.
It's a lifetime. I mean, it covers the guy's lifetime. That's true. It's lovely. It sort of celebrates a common fellow. Right.
I found it very, very moving. I'm all in my phone. It was the opposite of being in your phone. That's the whole movie. Exactly.
Yeah. That's sure the truth. Yeah, we're like, that guy didn't live. He didn't look at TikTok or nothing.
Yeah. I know. And then at the end, he takes that airplane ride and it all hits him. And you're like, oh, look, I got a baby. I'm staring at Snapchat. I got to look at my kid.
I know. I don't do that that much. I don't. This thing, I have to carry it around, but I'm sure it's not my friend.
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Chapter 2: What insights does William H. Macy share about his acting process?
Yeah. So you would have been Francis McDormand?
I didn't know Franny before that. No, but you mean that was the role you read for? No, The Detective, who goes to investigate, you know, he's got the big muff, and he says, yeah, these fellas came in, and he said, you know, what if we were to beat you up? And he said, well, I wouldn't like that. Oh, yeah. And they go, front's coming in, and they all turn and look.
Right.
Great scene.
Wow. Those scenes in the office were so damn tense where you're lying over and over. Right. So good.
And the scene where Frances McDormand with the old friend, the Asian guy, where she finds out he lies about being married. He's hidden on her. And you realize how detailed these scripts are.
Oh, yeah.
I know. That's when she realizes that people are full of shit.
You know... In a strictly Aristotelian kind of way, I thought, what does this scene have to do with anything? It doesn't move the plot. You could take it out and nothing would happen. But I realized, psychologically, it really shaped the world as Franny saw it. That it's just going to pieces. She says it at the end. All of this for a little money? I just don't understand. Yeah.
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Chapter 3: How does William H. Macy describe his experience working with the Coen brothers?
Do you think he had a room in that hotel? At the end? The Asian guy. Do you think he had a room there? Do you think he was trying to sleep with her?
Oh, definitely.
But do you think he got the room?
I don't know.
He did hit on her.
Yeah.
No question about that. That awkward just moves to her side of the booth. It's such a cringeworthy moment.
Yeah. Now, what I got to ask about Boogie Nights. I mean, you're such a nerd. You're so desperate.
Poor schmuck.
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Chapter 4: What are the key themes in Fargo and Boogie Nights according to the speakers?
Could be. Could be. And also, I think it was weird for people to see a show like that without a laugh track back then.
Every show had a laugh track. But that was a really. Isn't it bizarre when you watch TV now and it's got a laugh track? It's so primitive. Yeah. Totally.
Unless it's like Seinfeld or Frasier and there's a joke like every seven seconds and you're like, all right. But yeah, for the most part.
A new show. Yeah.
This is weird. Do new shows have it?
Some do. Some. It feels like the Honeymooners or something. It just feels so.
A lot of times they'll have a live audience, but they sweeten it. And you don't know.
Yeah, there she is.
That ain't showbiz. Mm-mm. Aw.
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Chapter 5: What acting advice does William H. Macy share?
Yeah. It just takes you out of the movie.
There's some stuff in the movie Lenny with Dustin Hoffman. They're just like, ugh. And he's a great actor. He's great. And the movie's got some great parts, too. But there's just, yeah, as a comic, you're just like, oh, man. Even a comic of that age wouldn't do it. You know who played a great comic was Sandler in Funny People, but he's a comic. Right. So he knows.
Good point. When I saw Hamnet and... They end up at the Old Globe, and I thought, oh, no, don't show acting.
Chapter 6: How do actors navigate the challenges of storytelling?
You can't make a movie of stage acting. It just never works.
Yes. And it did. They pulled it off. I got to see it. I haven't seen it.
It's so moving. Because it wasn't so much about them on stage. It was the look on her face. She had never been to a play before.
Right, right.
That just killed me.
Oh, yeah. The run of Oscars, the nominees this year were pretty damn good.
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Chapter 7: What are the key elements of a great script according to Macy?
There was some good stuff, man.
Yeah. It was not a good year to get an Oscar nomination.
yeah yeah stiff competition yeah okay severance great show took me a second but boy once you're in you're in i gotta watch it i'm gonna that's next to my list i'm gonna watch it's astounding i don't know how they keep that that ball in the air that long yeah yeah so smart so relevant yeah Kind of eerie, too. Almost has like a 60s, Twilight-y, Zone-y kind of vibe.
I think Ben Stiller, he's the guy. Yeah.
I think he wrote some of them, I think, and he directed a whole bunch of them. It's brilliant work on his part.
Brilliant. And he just has a show now he produces called Born to Bowl that I'm a huge fan of on HBO. It's like a docuseries about the bowling world. Fascinating.
The doc on his parents was great that he did.
Oh, yeah. I loved it. Yeah, that was great.
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Chapter 8: How does William H. Macy feel about the role of AI in filmmaking?
I watched that off your rec. Yeah. Heavy, heavy stuff. And Veep. Veep is another. I love Veep. Veep is underrated. To joke a second.
Hilarious.
everyone's out for themselves yeah julie louise is a beast insane this is what i love about it too it's it's farcical i mean it's really broad and yet those guys play it so truthfully that they get away with it it's yeah yeah selfish fun and she's fabulous oh yeah she kills everything she does she's great she's great we gotta get her on she's a dream guest yeah we gotta we gotta
i don't see her on a lot of pods what do you think about the pod world the podcast have you done a lot of podcasts yeah recently in the last year and a half um uh is it weird no this is i love this we just get to sit together and shoot the it's better than a um talk show an interview or a talk show where everything's got to be chopped up and um uh a lot of my friends listen to a lot of podcasts felicity loves them
All right, great. Yeah, I remember I did, what's the guy's name? Rich Eisen. And I showed up, and I was like, all right, here we go. What do you guys do, an hour, hour and a half? They're like, eight minutes. And I was like, oh, this is TV. I forgot. This is like the old way. Yeah. Because you can't really get too far with eight minutes.
No. But here we can really dig in. Yeah, and you can cut it down later. Sure. But it's fun to be able to talk.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I got a peeve. Please. Is when a girl I started seeing, every story she tells, she gives like the full name of the people. She'll be like, I was talking to Peter Glassman and then Rick Stevens. I'm like, I don't know any of these. I'm not the BBC. I'm not fact checking these stories. You can just tell me the first name. Yeah, that's true. I don't need all this. It's not a huge peeve.
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