You may know Dr Mary Birdsall as the fertility queen of New Zealand with her work helping kiwi couples realise their dream of starting a family. But Mary recently went on her own terrifying health journey with her battle with anal cancer. This experience has helped Mary gain a deeper understanding of what some her own patients have been through, and she's not entirely impressed by the standard of healthcare in New Zealand. In this episode, Toni and Mary chat about how she discovered she had cancer, the treatment and recovery process, and why Mary thinks it's so important to discuss anal cancer. You can find Mary's Anal Cancer Support Services here Or listen to her podcast Anal Cancer all you wanted to know but were afraid to askSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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