We were joined by Marcello Cossali-Francis who is not only an excellent sports editor but also has a keen interest in Italian and Welsh rugby. With the battle of the basement looming, the Italian team are feeling positive and confident while the Welsh camp couldn't be further from that. Marcello talks us through how this has been building over the last few years, who to watch out for, why and who they fear on the Welsh side. The longer we went on, the less confident we were of a Welsh victory on Saturday and the more we spoke about 'the performance'. We ended with a chat about the demise of the Worcester Warriors and what Welsh Rugby can learn from it. It was a pleasure talking to Marcello and you can follow him on Twitter @mcossalfrancis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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