Dr. Daniel Hai on Healing Beyond Labels: Connection Over Diagnosis
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
It was only a few versions ago that women having a job was a disorder. Shut up. No, I'm not shutting up. I missed it. Yeah, OK. And it's like a bunch of white dudes get together in a room and say, here is what everything is. No.
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Where'd you come from? Encino? Yes, that's where my office is. I really wanted to prep myself for you. But it is actually really true that I do see the cases where people don't seem like they have any hope left.
Good. Let's get right into it. Sure. You call what you do neurocognitive therapy. Break that down for the audience. In plain English, what are you actually doing to people's brains?
Neurocognitive therapy is holistic in a sense that it works both on what's happening neurologically and emotionally. So basically you'll come in, I'll do an assessment on you. Then you'll do actual treatment and we'll do cognitive like rehab. And then after that, I show you and I graph your results in terms of the improvements that you've actually had. So instead of actually just coming in and saying we're going to talk about our feelings, it's a little deeper than that. And I like to show like evidence. demonstrating the results so through the testing through the testing and through real life so it's ecological which means my lens is based on what's happening in real life not on tests i'm also not traditional in that sense for that clinical information of what's happening in the client's life is way more important to me than what's happening on the test okay let's move on you're blending neuropsychology mindfulness attachment therapy
Sounds like a lot of science and soul. How do you keep that from turning into mumbo jumbo?
I think that we as psychologists have stolen a lot of people's philosophies like Buddhist philosophy, Judaic values and all those things. And I think I really like to get to the roots of it. And most research does dictate that the therapeutic alliance, meaning the attachment that you have with a person, determines how well you do. So I could throw five different therapies at you. Doesn't mean anything. No, once you have the trust of the patient, you have nothing because you're not getting anything. And that's what's the most important thing for me is that there needs to be an alliance. That emotionally corrective experience of actually trusting someone that's here to help you and actually getting to know you and pushing you is way more important than trust.
I'm doing DBT, CBT right now. Right. And they see that in my office and I think that's more important. Yeah. Okay.
But it's true holistic treatment is what it is. Yes, it is. I mean, if you're going to put all those things together, okay, you're treating the whole person, right? Got it. You talk about treating the whole person. There it is. What does that mean? Like what happens in your office that doesn't happen anywhere else?
So I look at things of all scopes, whether it's actually your blood test results, nutrition. I look at your emotional results. I talk to you about your family. There's no stone that doesn't get unturned in the office. Holistically speaking, I like to look functionally at the root cause.
I only know one doctor who does all of those things. including working out with the patients, teaching them how to sail on the surfboard, whatever that's called, check all their medications to see how they're interacting, looking at the blood work.
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Chapters
6 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–7:00
2
What is neurocognitive therapy and how does it work?
7:00–11:49
3
What role does the therapeutic alliance play in treatment?
11:49–20:14
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How does exposure therapy differ from traditional methods?
20:14–24:59
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What are the implications of functional medicine in therapy?
24:59–32:12
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How can understanding premorbid intelligence aid recovery?
32:12–41:33
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