In this episode I visit the Axmouth to Lyme Regis National Nature Reserve - commonly known as the Undercliffs. It is an incredible seven mile long strip of coastal land dominated by vegetated landslips, cliffs, hidden pinnacles, self-seeded Ash woodland, ponds, springs, patches of chalk grassland, and remote beaches on the East Devon Coast. You can see the photos, hear more audio, and see some drone footage at whatifyoujustleaveit.info and this podcast comprises an interview with Tom Sunderland, the Reserve Manager, and Rob Beard, the Reserve Warden, who work for Natural England. They talk about what management means, both in the context of traditional nature conservation and of rewilding, and how the Undercliffs fits into this. The webpage also gives an additional interview with volunteer Donald Campbell, who was awarded an OBE for his work on the Undercliffs. My thanks to Tom, Rob, Donald and also Lyme Regis Museum. Any comments and reviews very welcome, and thank you for listening.

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