Top and Tail with JJ - Carlton (29.09.26)
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How does Josh Jenkins rank Carlton’s best and worst offseason moves?
Uh, it's a partnership on mornings while trade radio is in full swing. Sam Edmund with you. Josh Jenkins as well. And the volcano will just uh dip his toe in the water as well in the opening hour of this programme every day. JJ, you've come armed and dangerous. Top and tail, what is it again? And let's get into it.
A beautiful drop punt from the Aussie Tory Taylor as well. Monday night football puts it down at the two yard line.
All right.
Well, what a kick. Um, all right, top and tail. Move on. Carlton, the Carlton football club, haven't they? Fortunes uh zigged and zagged across the last uh little period of time. So I'll start with the tail, the bottom end. So this is the three moves that have most negatively impacted Carlton's current state of affairs. So I've I've tried to bring every club back to what has happened that has impacted their current state affairs. Group.
Which former GWS players returning to Carlton failed to deliver?
Uh the third worst move in my humble is all those ex GWS players that were brought back to Carlton. So uh I've probably missed one. How far back are what what is the what define this era? Well their current playing list. Guys who were brought back to the club who could still currently be a part of the group but aren't still a part of the group. So there are a a handful of guys who are Have been been brought back to the club who haven't worked. You've got um Marchbank, Palmer, Kennedy, Williams, Cetterfield, Jax, Lamb. There's heaps of guys that came back from GWS to Carlton. And you've got one like Nick Haynes that has been very, very handy for the football club. But there's a heap there that haven't worked.
Why has Zach Williams’ move to Carlton fallen short?
I'm going to double down at two because Zach Williams. was supposed to arrive as a I think Phil Davis called him a transformative midfielder. That never happened, never looked like happening for Carlton, unfortunately. Now injuries have played their part. They paid him a handsome amount of money. To be a difference maker and unfortunately he's probably now you can adjudicate this better than I, he he's probably only really had small chunks in seasons where he's been
Good moments, but not excellent. I mean he came for nothing. He was per In the f in the trade sense. He's a frame. Which is always which is always very handy. But he came as a frustrated halfback flanker. Who's going to be a gun mid. Who he thought and Carlton thought was going to be some
others thought, some giants people. A midfielder. And it didn't quite
work out.
It hasn't worked out for him. Uh, and this one, I'm interested in your views.
Was Adam Cerra worth the trade cost of pick six?
Adam Cherra, the trade for Adam Cherra. So it was for pick six, which became pick eight, which ultimately was Jai Amos. Now they've, you know, been pretty well stocked for key forwards, but uh the player taken three picks later was Nasiah Wanganin Miller, so he'd look good in the Navy blue. So Cheras suffered a similar fate to Williams. Health has not been his best friend. Soft tissues have stalked him.
But we're looking at him the wrong way. And look, you can rightly argue that pick six is overs, and it probably is, but we're looking at him the wrong way if we're expecting him to be I I think the right way to look at him is is like a He plays out of the he's not the same, but he plays out of the Josh Dunkley mould. He's a defensive midfielder, now a defensive winger, who I think his value to the side uh isn't easily recognized by data. And I think
d the Dunkley I can't I can't fathom the Dunkley comparison. He runs As I
said, he's not Josh Dunkley, but he's a defensive midfielder. Like people get into him for not kicking goals. Okay. Well whatever comparison you want to make. You get my gist, okay. He's not a line breaking, goal kicking midfielder. He's never been that. But his value to the Carlton team over the journey has been um game now, defensive mentality, an appetite to tackle.
Well like the role he's currently in.
Yeah. So he's found a home on a wing. Um But it was But pick six, big pr big big
price. Not at the expense of pick six. Uh, their three best moves.
What are Carlton’s most successful recent list-management moves?
Uh again, uh Carlton fans, let us know. I've probably missed one or two and hopefully I have, so that you can get involved.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
How does Josh Jenkins rank Carlton’s best and worst offseason moves?
0:03–0:53
2
Which former GWS players returning to Carlton failed to deliver?
0:53–1:38
3
Why has Zach Williams’ move to Carlton fallen short?
1:38–2:36
4
Was Adam Cerra worth the trade cost of pick six?
2:36–4:02
5
What are Carlton’s most successful recent list-management moves?
4:02–4:22
6
How did Carlton benefit from Charlie Curnow’s departure?
4:22–5:07
7
Why did Carlton trade up to draft Jagger Smith?
5:07–7:45
8
Which Carlton moves did fans say were overlooked or unsuccessful?
7:45–10:12
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