Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Chapter 2: What topics are covered in this episode of Whateley?
In this episode, the Eye of the Coach with Adam Simpson, Collingwood President Barry Karp, Strategy 2026 with Brenton Sanderson, and Know Your History with Shannon Gill pondered the question, is Scott Pendlebury the greatest magpie? You can get in touch at any time. Waitley at sen.com.au. Thanks for listening. Enjoy.
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Thursday morning.
This is your town. This is your station. This is Waitley. Good morning. The long overdue reforms to the draft bidding system have now been unveiled. Having dithered for too long and then pretended to make alterations, the AFL has finally addressed one of the greatest flaws in equalisation. If done right, it would upset most. Too harsh, too soft, too hasty, too late. The reactions?
They've spanned the almost certain return of tanking to putting the V back in AFL. Although Koshy rolls this out every time he's unhappy, so it doesn't land like it once did. During the procrastination process, the AFL opened Pandora's box, letting each club's self-interest shape the debates. But this is why we have the independent commission, to do what is in the best interests of the game.
We have watched gaps become schisms in the latter. because equalisation has been so badly compromised. This is cause and effect. In a delicately balanced competition, any advantage granted has a drastic impact. And we had allowed far too many liberties. The defining quality of multiple draft nights was the capacity to turn junk bonds into blue chip assets.
to match pick five for a father-son with 40, 42, 43 and 46, to match four academy picks in the first round and still have surplus for another first round choice. It has been an insult to our intelligence. Until there was a system where clubs couldn't afford to bid match without trading out an established asset, the system would never be rebalanced.
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Chapter 3: What changes have been made to the AFL draft bidding system?
They're going to have to pay closer, you know, use their first pick and perhaps the second pick to get it done.
If Cody Walker is bid on at pick one, what will Carlton need to get him?
If it was today and where the ladder is, they're pick three, they would need three and 27. We knew at the time, even in Brisbane, that that was very generous, that you could do that. And so part of that is, in that scenario, you've got to make the call to get Levi done. If you had pick 18, if you'd won the premiership, you've got to trade down to get pick 11. How do you do that?
You've probably got to lose a player. So then you make the call, do I want to lose a player? to get a really good player, or do I just let him go through in the draft? So that's the philosophy. You can only use two picks.
Greg Swann with us on 360 last night. So you have to make your list weaker to get the player that you want. We've been a long time getting here, but at least it's a step in the right direction. Our Thursdays include Strategy 2026 with Brenton Sanderson, Shannon Gill has a Scott Pendlebury-inspired Know Your History, and the Eye of the Coach is where we start. Adam Simpson, hello.
Morning, Gerard. It sort of makes sense to me, but I'm in the industry and you, that for a lot of people out there, it gets confusing. So the clarity around it, you've got to read it a couple of times, but I think it makes sense. I think it lands in a space where... Um, we can all, you know, what will happen now is strategy kicks in for clubs. There's a loophole there.
There's, we haven't seen it yet, but there will be one. There'll be a club. We'll get to draft night. We'll go, oh, gee, you can do that. We better change that rule. That's going to happen, isn't it? It feels like it's going to happen. Over time it will happen. Um, and the only issue I see with it all from a, from club land, it's just so quick. Like it's quick.
The planning for the draft is two years ago. So to do it eight months out from the draft now, it's a challenge. To give us a longer runway is probably the only criticism I see on this.
I know rip off the Band-Aid and get going with it and what will be will be, but there'll be some clubs who are really disadvantaged with this and there'll be some clubs who'll swoop in with a different look and they've gone from... Yeah, we're okay this year too. Well, we can really do some damage. So that's the only criticism I would have. They dithered for far too long.
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Chapter 4: How do clubs react to the new draft system changes?
Yeah, so what we're saying is if there's a club who's a pick eight who's got their match pick they want to bid for and get, if you nominate that player first, they've got to match it and then suddenly you get an extra pick at the end of the second round.
End of the first round.
End of the first round. So we were often looking at some of these players and there was a few years there where you didn't bother picking up another club's preference because it's like, oh, let's just stay simple. Let's keep what we want. Let's try and... do what we need to do. And you're crazy now not to bid on someone else's player. Cause you'll get it, you get compensated.
So that, that's interesting. And there'll be some manipulation. The conversation will be, are we willing, um, to force, force, you want to force them to match, but we've got to be willing to take that bid. So if you do bid on someone, you gotta be willing to take them. Cause there'll be a chance that, um, a club will go, oh no, we'll, we'll let you have that play and we'll, we'll take our risk.
So there's, yeah, it's complicated, but once you're in it, it's really simple. It's just, there's going to be frantic conversations happening in the next two or three months. Yep.
Yep. All right. So that's for us all to digest and debate along the way. Just before we get into our work today, is Luke Beveridge's soapbox yesterday self-declared?
Yeah.
Yep. Yep. It was, I reckon about two thirds of it landed. I reckon there's a third that's a bit, a bit random, but the idea that I liked is he likened to the tax act. So this is his previous life. Um, that the game is just now too hard to administer layer upon layer upon layer in every aspect.
I think we all think that to a certain degree. When you're struggling, you don't know you're doing it, but you're angry all the time, whether you're at home and your kids, your wife, or you're at the club, and I think it spills over to your press conference and everything annoys you and Bevo's cracked, which is sort of understandable. But yeah, I thought the same.
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Chapter 5: What strategies should Collingwood employ against Hawthorne?
What do you value in the big men? Well, I think this new centre bounce rule, the scoring's gone up out of the middle. It's more fun. It looks better. And I think there's some clubs have won games off the back of the new ruck change in the middle. Collingwood a few weeks ago, what they did against Carlton with Steen and So I thought, what is the, I've only got 12 here, 12 rucks.
I think it really, it peters out a little bit. Who do you think's number one in my, so more often I've done disposals, disposals, hit outs to advantage, contested possessions, marks, clearances. Center bounce clearances and score involvements are my, what I think I'd look for. Cause, um, I think hit outs to advantages are better than just hit outs, you know?
So you've got to have some sort of connection with your mid. So, you know, and who in those, in the top of your head, I mean, I know you've seen the list, but who would you have?
So I would have guessed Max Gorn.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So he's, he's averaging 21 disposals, 14 hit outs to advantage, 15 contested possessions, four marks, five, six clearances and six score involvement. So he's pretty good. Yeah. But Jackson's above him. Yeah. So, you know, Jackson's 19 disposals, 17 hit outs to advantage, um, Um, contested possessions is 11, four marks, five clearances, seven score involvements. So he's having a great year.
We just don't see him as much as, imagine if they still were together.
Geez. Yes. Well, they would be individually diminished, but as a superpower collection.
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Chapter 6: What changes has Ross Lyon made to St Kilda's gameplay?
But also, too, there was a time when Ross Lyon coached teams that were excellent defensively. They were one or two every season. They were really stingy. You could not score against them. Any week, every week, they would give up low scores. But I think what he has done, and I'm just guessing, but... it feels like he's had to give up something defensively to get more offense.
So we haven't really seen a shift in scores improving, but yeah, it just feels like at the moment his quest and the way that he's coaching now is he's looking for more offense and potentially that's coming at a slight expense of what their defensive numbers have traditionally been over the journey for Ross. But But that's what St Kilda fans are seeing at the moment.
They're seeing mid-table, mid-tier, and that's probably the results of where they're sort of sitting at the moment. So can you see improvement? Well, I am, yeah. And that's where I think it's positive for St Kilda and their fans is... So this year, as I mentioned before, they're scoring on average 94 points per game.
Chapter 7: Can St Kilda fans expect improvement this season?
Last year that was 80, and the year before that was 76. So we are seeing higher scores from St Kilda. But as I mentioned, Gerard, that's coming at the expense of their defensive numbers. So in 2024, they gave up 76 points per game. 2025, that rose to 90 points per game they were giving up. And this year, as I mentioned, 85. So... I think there are positives there.
At the slight expense of what their defensive numbers are looking like, we're seeing better offense. But I really like their list. I do. I think there's some positives there. Sinclair, Wilkie, Wanganee, Malira, Flanders, Hill, Garcia, Silvani, Philippou, Deconning, Owens, Marshall, Tarou, Clark, Caminiti. Just go on. There's a really good young list there.
So I think there are some positive, but it's time to take the next step. It feels like this is a crunch game for them. They've just got to beat Carlton. And I think we can then start to think, right, here we go. This is the St Kilda that Ross has been developing and evolving. And this talented young list is going to start to really evolve. This is a bellwether game. I completely agree with that.
For what they've done, the strategy they've taken, for what they've taken out of Carlton, don't be losing to the Blues. That's right. So that loads a lot into it. I reckon. Is it clear now that there's a template you need to beat Carlton? Yeah, and I think that's where Ross is a great coach and he'll know, and the industry knows now, against Carlton, you've got to put speed on transition.
You've got to attack quickly from turnover.
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Chapter 8: What strategies should teams use to beat Carlton?
You've got to use the corridor when possible. Keep speed on the game. Keep speed on the game against Carlton. And then you'll get an opportunity to isolate Carlton's defenders. So if you move the ball fast before Carlton's defence can get set, they're the opportunities to expose them. And we know now the reality is Carlton are playing some great footy, but they can't sustain it for four quarters.
So I'll say it again, put speed on the game and you can outwork and outrun Carlton and you'll find a way to beat them. So that's, I think, what Ross Line will go into this game with. All right. Carlton are right on the cusp of winning a game. Could Carlton find a way to win this?
Yeah, I'm still a believer in the Blues because they've played some great footy and they can win this game if they dominate clearances, which we've seen them do. If they can control territory, they've got a limit. As I mentioned, St. Kilda will be trying to put transition speed and score on this game. So they've got to limit that.
and they've just got to play four quarters of strong defence, and they've got to believe, and then they've got to execute. So I'm with you, Gerard. I think Carlton will win a game really soon. They'll sustain, they'll have the belief, and they'll play a four-quarter performance. This is going to be an absolute ripper of a game.
This is almost must-watch footy this weekend, St Kilda versus Carlton. When St Kilda, so I liked, Sydney went to West Coast, beat them by a hundred plus and got a whole thing, a whole lot of things set in their game.
A few things that they'd been shown they had deficiencies on, they clearly trained them across a buy and then they executed them and it actually didn't matter who the opposition was and they've been able to carry that on week to week. This is, so people were debating, what's the worth of St. Kilda's 100 point win over West Coast? I feel like this is the worth. Yeah.
Whatever it is that they've been putting in place, Ross watches them really closely. He thought they put Caminiti into the future king role. So they changed their structure for the day and then they rehearsed it, they fine tuned it and it delivered the result that it did.
Now you bring that against a better opponent, let's not overestimate what Carlton is, but certainly a better opponent than West Coast is. Can you carry those trends and patterns into the next game and execute again? Yeah, that's the art of coaching. And I know we talk about it a lot. You talk about it all week with the other people that come on, whether it's Simo or Ken Hinkley.
That's the challenge now is you come off a big win like that. You rely so much on your leadership group, standards, behaviors, execution, and it's not just turn up and it's automatic, but the great sides over a sustained period of time, it does become automatic where when you turn up, you know exactly what you're going to get from your team. So it feels like St.
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