Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
Tuesday morning, this is your town. This is your station. This is Waitley. Good morning. I love footy, but today is a heavy day of football news. At 3pm, we will learn the fate of one AFL player who, up against the word of two VFL players, lost his case last week. Shortly after, it will be the word of two AFL players up against the word of one AFL umpire.
In both cases, the truth is sharply contested. Who said what? Did Lance Collard really say maggot? Did Zach Butters really ask Nick Foote how much he's being paid? Whoever you believe, it's all a bit ugly. And in the middle, as always, is the AFL. And no one supports the AFL. They're trying to stamp out homophobic language in Collard's case and protect an umpire in another.
I don't know what Butters said. I don't know what Collard said. And I'm not going to begin to guess. But what I do know is yesterday Nick Foote was given a few hours to cool down and reassess if he wanted to take it further. And he didn't waver. Having sat in that chair for 20 years, there's nothing worse outside of vilification that you could say to a match day official.
And umpires are not allowed to go back. I would get in so much trouble even just for standing my ground and saying, don't talk to me like that. And I'm not suggesting Zach did say this. Again, it has to be proven yet, right? But more broadly, calling an umpire a cheat or making that inference is as poor a thing as you can say to an umpire. Look, I'm really disappointed, if I'm being honest.
I'm really disappointed with the way this has all played out and how it's played out, Gerard. This is a fella who I know really well. You attack the kids, you attack your family, you get it.
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Chapter 2: What are the controversies surrounding AFL player statements?
You want to be very careful. Zach, to me, is almost like family. I can tell you, you can trust Ollie and Zach with your life. And, you know, I can't see how Zach would get on and say what he said knowing the game so well, knowing that there's mics on, knowing that there's everything being recorded, knowing that 99 out of 100, this will be caught on mic. Can I just say one other thing on this?
And that's both perspectives. That's a perspective from an umpire and perspective from someone who knows Zach Butters really well, Ken Hinkley, on Sports Day last night. It's not fashionable to support an umpire, but I know Nick Foote, and in my experience, he is a good man. He's a grand final umpire, and he knows the laws of the game.
And one of the laws of the game, per Section 22.3D, is that, and I quote, an umpire shall not speak with the reported player or any other player about the report which has been made. You can say what you want about the report itself. I'm sure people on our open line will, on our temper text.
You can say what you want about the microphone audio, which has inconveniently gone missing or doesn't exist, and the curiosity of foots roll at Sportsbet. But an umpire simply isn't allowed to engage with a reported player post-game. Now, 3AW isolated the audio. You can make your own mind up.
Moving on. 50 metres. 50 metres. Moving on.
50 metres. I must admit, my mind did go back to the Tony Jones, Matt Head, Whispers in the Sky controversy 20 years ago. We may never know the truth for sure. But yes, it is a heavy afternoon at AFL HQ. Tom Morris filling the shoes of Gerard Waitley today. Wednesday and Thursday. Matt Shervington will talk athletics. James Sutherland, golf with me later this morning.
We'll take your calls and bring you the guts of Michael Voss's media conference out of 10. But Tuesdays begin one way, and that's the leadership portfolio. And there's no better way to unpack the nuances of what's ahead than our four-time premiership hawk, Luke Hodge, joining us. Hodge, welcome again to Waitley. Morning, Tommy. What a disappointing way to finish Gather Round.
I look forward to Gather Round every year.
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Chapter 3: How are umpires' decisions perceived in the AFL?
It's always a great event. Love it over there in South Australia. And then we get to the end of it and from the final game we come out and all we can talk about is the Nick Foot and Butters conversation or miscommunication between the two. So put that to the side. What a fantastic few days of football. Yeah, it's something about Port Adelaide's colourful Gather Round history.
So one year, I think it was a Friday night, Finn Lason delivered a homophobic slur. And then last year, the famous win, then Willie Rioli put out a social media post. And then Sunday night again, something about Port and Gather Round just brings out the biggest stories. Yeah, it is. And I think... Look, I think footy's there to be spoken about.
I guess the big building to last year's gather round was the Kenny and the plane with Ginnivan, which was the massive talk. Still can't believe you got fined for that, by the way. I fell off my seat when I heard that and then they go and promote it the next year. But yeah, this is a confusing one because you sit back and Nick Foote's umpired me for a long period of time.
And for me, I just think it's miscommunication. What he heard and what Bud has said, both believe, they've both been honest. And we sort of sit back and go, well, I don't think Nick's lying because if you have an umpire feel that a player's abused him for cheating, he has to take this ground. And on the flip side, butters are sitting on, I did not say that.
This is, I can understand where you're coming from, but I did not say that. So hopefully we'll get to the tribunal. I don't want Nick Foote's reputation to be dragged through the Coliseum because when I umpired, he was one who you would communicate with. You'd have a banter. If you did get a bit heated and abuse him, he'd tell you to pull up and then continue on.
So look, I feel that the tribunal, as much as we don't want to see this go into the tribunal, hopefully we get there and we understand that what Nick heard wasn't what he thought, and Zach can go on and play next week. So it is a hard one, but I think if any umpire... hears someone accusing them of cheating or getting bribed, the AFL is telling them to take it. They have to report them.
So he's doing what he's told to do. But I think we're all sitting here going, what he heard was a little bit different to what Zach said by the reaction of what Zach had on the ground as well. How difficult is it out there in the middle when it comes to communicating with umpires and teammates? How likely is it that there was a miscommunication and just the wires being crossed?
Well, you think about it. Mate, you know when you're doing the media, when you've got someone in your ear, you're trying to talk, you're listening to what your commentator's saying, you've got your producer in the background talking. Sometimes I'll get BT asking me a question and I don't hear what he said because my mind's on...
the next phase or talking to someone else and you think Nick in his position he's got other umpires in his head he's got someone else he's got all the players he's got the crowd he's just paid a free kick where probably a few players were disagreeing with the free kick because it possibly would have been a bit tiggy touchwood considering some of the other free kicks are let go
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Chapter 4: What insights does Luke Hodge provide about leadership in football?
Are they squeezing? Should they spread out a little bit? You can see the game a lot better from behind the ball to be able to teach and instruct your teammates. But being in and around the contest, you look what Pendleby's been able to do for years while he was captain, having a midfielder who can do both.
Play midfield and have a bit of an impact when you need to or maybe go in there and shut someone down as a selfless leadership role or sit across half-back and be able to direct from there.
How much are you feeling or watching Patrick Cripps at the moment and how difficult is it as a time for a captain like Cripps at Carlton who is playing the best he can possibly play but clearly he can't do it all and equally he's not the player that he once was because his body is so banged up. I think his body's banged up, but also the game hasn't helped him.
You sort of look at how they've changed the ruck rule, which has taken away a lot of... O'Brien, for instance, from Adelaide, it's taken away his strength as a ruckman and given it to the more athletic ruckman. You look at Reeves, Meek dominated the ruck for Hawks the last couple of years.
All of a sudden, they're split at 50-50 because Reeves, with the jumping rule, it brings advantage to his way and Meek can do his stuff around the ground. Um, what it's also do is it's taken away that bigger bulky midfielder that teams have built up for years.
All of a sudden Carlton, Carlton was so good at contest position and they're still really good now scoring from, from stoppage because that bigger bulky midfielder, but it's the next phase that gets you. It's the spread from a contest. It's the turnover. It's the scoring from turnover because you can go from contest to contest. Um, that's where it's starting to affect them.
And you look at Carlton, they built up that list to be a bigger inside, bigger body midfield. But then all of a sudden, because of a couple of rules, all of a sudden it's like, oh, hang on, our list is too dominant one way. So that's why you've got to throw in these younger kids who probably can't have a consistent impact just yet. And if you look at Cripps, I felt, I felt for Carlton because, um,
The biggest knock on Carlton over the last 18 months has been their second halves. You can't run out a second half. This crip gets tired. So what you'd look through and say, well, when's the best time for us to give him a rest early so he can have energy late in the game? Unfortunately, when Adelaide got a spray a quarter time from Nick's,
starting the skipper on the bench probably wasn't the ideal time. Maybe if he did need two rotations, maybe give him the first five minutes in there just to get the tempo of the game, have the stoppages go on their way, and then maybe give him a six to ten minutes off and then maybe take him off from 20 to 25 minutes.
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Chapter 5: What are the key characteristics of champion athletes?
I often will talk to school kids or other athletes and we've all heard of the one percenters, right? The one percenters are the things that you do consistently and determined and determined. You make sure you leave nothing out on the training paddock or wherever it is that you're working hard. There are two types of one percenters in our game.
And in any game, it could be footy, it could be anything. There's the one percenters input, which is the work that you do. But then there's the difference between a real champion and someone that just goes out there and executes. And that is the one percenters output. And that's taking advantage of those moments and making sure that you are ready 100%.
The best example of that is probably Lockie Kennedy right now. For me, he is the most efficient technical runner we've ever produced in terms of sprinters. He is just flawless. You go back and watch him run. You pause it at any moment.
Chapter 6: Who is Lockie Kennedy and what makes him a standout runner?
It is just the perfect form. He's so locked in through the core. He doesn't move his head. He breathes. Nice and relaxed. Everything's moving fluidly. It's just amazing to watch. And I think Gout watching his, what would you say, roughness or room for improvement is the most exciting thing. So you're right.
There's going to be moments that he'll execute beautifully and there'll be moments where he might miss his chance. But the way they're working and the way they're managing his load right now and the smart decisions they're making for him and himself, uh, are the right ones. And that's why I think we'll get longevity with him.
It's so exciting when you've got a potentially generational athlete coming through and you're right. Gout Gout's been around for a couple of years.
Chapter 7: What insights are shared about Gout Gout's background and personality?
He burst onto the scene with who's this, who's this kid. And now he just goes from strength to strength. What's he like as a person? I know you've spent time with him, um, for channel seven special with Bruce and Raylene Boyle. Take us behind the scenes. What's Gout Gout like the person? Yeah. Humble background and, and, um, you know, Sudanese upbringing.
Uh, he was born obviously in Australia, but, um, A couple of his siblings weren't and his family obviously migrated to Australia and for a better life and that's exactly what they got in Brisbane. He went to Ipswich Grammar and one of the coolest things is
when you're in year 12 or the seniors, um, at Ipswich Grammar, you have to line up out the front when kids are arriving into school and, and welcome all the other kids to, um, the school, school, um, yard. And, uh, apparently all the kids line up to say g'day to Gout, um, because they want to get a with the champion. He's graduated now. He's got the fruit to train every once. And, um, he's
He has earned the respect as a person and earned the respect as an athlete, and that's only going to continue. So Lachlan Kennedy, you mentioned before, and he's just as exciting, albeit a couple of years older, and he's running so well in the 100 metres. That was your event. You made a career out of it. That's what got you started, and that's what you're well known for.
You said he's technically proficient, but what's his ceiling? How far can he go as an athlete?
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Chapter 8: How is Australian athletics performing compared to previous eras?
You know, the irony for Lockie is essentially a broken back has led to him breaking the 10-second barrier over the last weekend because back in July, he was diagnosed with a stress fracture in his back. That was the last time he raced. properly before this summer. And he had to go back a number of steps. He was doing Pilates week in, week out.
He was doing a lot of core work and really strengthening in and around his spine so that one, he could recover, but two, he wasn't going to do it again. So as you said, he's only 22 years of age. He's so young. And I think if Gout wasn't around, and so many people have already referred to this, that
He would be stealing all the headlines and he's done an amazing job to cut through the way that he has and deservedly so. He's beaten Gout in his pet event over the 200 at the Morro Plant Meet. In back-to-back years, he's broken 10 at the national championships and has shown that he's only got more to come as well.
So the thing with Lockie, which I think is most impressive, aside from his technical ability, is he is a competitor. So he knows how to find it when he needs it. And we saw that at the national championships. He was beaten last year by Rowan Browning, although he had the fastest qualifying time. And he learned a lot from that. and he just seems to ā he's a smart kid. He's a really smart kid.
You get a chance to talk to him. He's very switched on for a young 20-something-year-old, and that's going to pay him back to the intelligence that he has. More broadly, Australian athletics, how strong is it at the moment compared to previous generations or other eras that you've seen and have been involved in? So often, Tom, we always get waves of a really good ā
Female cohort and the women will dominate or there'll be a particular event like pole vault, which will have a really good coach that might lead to three or four athletes over a generation that will do well or the hurdles or the sprints or whatever it is. Right now, we have such a mixed bag of champions. So we've got Nicola Ollerslagas and Eleanor Patterson in the high jump.
And just between the two of them, they're, you know, world champions, world medalists and contenders at the Olympic Games. We've also got Nina Kennedy, of course, who is a world champion, Olympic champion in the pole vault category.
We've got the middle distance is just outrageous right now with Jess Hull, just setting the world on fire in pretty much everything she turns her mind to at the moment. The 1500, of course, her pet event, unbelievable. But the other one is Cam Myers, 19 years of age, and is just a middle distance freak as well. I was watching him run the 1500 over the weekend, and it's like it's effortless.
Like he just... He puts zero effort in and just rolls around the track so easily. But then he can put a turn of pace on if he needs to as well. He's so switched on, so focused. And then you've got Matt Denny throwing discus. He's on the precipice of breaking a world record, not an Australian record, a world record and putting himself in Commonwealth Games champion contention.
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