Brett Goldstein (Encore)
episodePreviously titled “Brett Goldstein” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 6, 2026
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What is the premise of the Wildcard episode with Brett Goldstein?
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Hey, it's Rachel. So the team here at Wildcard, we all thought long and hard about what conversations to leave you with while we're on our brief summer break. Okay, not really that hard because this one was such an easy pick. It's got the perfect blend of irreverence and sincerity, Muppet joy and human heartbreak, and a charming British accent to boot. Yeah, I'm talking about the menshiest of menshes, Brett Goldstein, who's been on my mind because the man just got himself three Emmy nominations for Shrinking, the show he co-created with Jason Segel and Bill Lawrence. And of course, Brett is back as Roy Kent in the much-ballyhooed fourth season of Ted Lasso. It's truly one of my favorite conversations.
I do have to give a language warning. We're talking about Roy Kent after all. Happy summer and enjoy. What does age teach you about love?
I think if you look hard enough at anyone, you can love them. You know, if you're like strapped with someone, you're like, oh, fucking hell, this person's so boring. This person's so shit. That's on you. Like, I have to ask the right question. And I'm sure there is a key to this person.
I'm Rachel Martin, and this is Wildcard, the game where cards control the conversation. Each week, my guest answers questions about their life, questions pulled from a deck of cards. They're allowed to skip one question and to flip one question back on me. My guest this week is Brett Goldstein.
My one sort of rule of writing is you have to love all your characters. Even if you're writing the worst people in the world, you, the writer, have to write them with love.
Brett Goldstein may have become a global sensation for playing a deeply cynical soccer player in Ted Lasso. But at his core, Brett's a guy who loves a big, open-hearted story. One that isn't embarrassed to show all its feelings and maybe offer up a lesson or two about how to be a good person. Which is what Ted Lasso is all about. And the hit show Shrinking, both of which have Goldstein's creative fingerprints all over them. Also, any person who says, with zero irony, that the best day of his life was spent with Muppets on the set of Sesame Street, well, that's a person who loves humanity. As if creating massively popular TV shows wasn't enough and hosting his own podcast, Brett Goldstein is out with a new stand-up comedy special on HBO called The Second Best Night of Your Life.
Brett Goldstein, welcome to Wildcard.
That was a heck of an intro. Thank you very much. Nice to see you.
Nice to meet you. It's nice to see you too. Thank you for doing this. This is going to be fun.
Let's do it.
All right. Here are the first three cards.
Yeah.
One, two, or three.
Two.
Two. What's a tradition or ritual that feels unique to your family?
My dad... I don't know where this came from or why it started. And I really don't. And I hope there's not a dark story behind it. But he used to do, when we were little, he did a thing where everyone was called Trevor. And so he'd come home from work and he'd have like a bag of chocolates, candies for the Americans, sweeties. And they would be like in a brown paper bag. And he would, me and my sister... Would be there and he'd be like, and for Trevor the great or Trevor the stupid or Trevor the funny or Trevor the... Each of us was an adjective, Trevor the something, depending on, I don't know, what was going on. And then... When we all went to... We went with a load of people once to Universal Studios when they had, like, the E.T.
ride. Maybe they still do. And when you went on the E.T. ride, you give your name when you queue up, and at the end of it, E.T. would go, Thank you, Brett, as you went past, right?
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
What is the premise of the Wildcard episode with Brett Goldstein?
0:00–11:43
2
What unique family tradition does Brett share and how does it shape his view of people?
11:43–17:52
3
What early memory does Brett recall that sparked his appreciation of beauty?
17:52–31:42
4
How does Brett compare the creative freedom of stand‑up comedy to TV/film production?
31:42–40:57