Women in the Middle®: Loving Life After 50 - Midlife Coach Podcast
Episodes
EP #365: Life as a Baby Boomer Can Be Full of Opportunity with Wendy Green
18 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This week's episode is about how life as a baby boomer can still be full of opportunity. My guest today is Wendy Green. Wendy is now the host of the...
EP #364: ENCORE: Getting Unstuck in Midlife: Insights from Women in the Middle
11 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This week's encore episode is about getting unstuck in midlife and features insights from the Women in the Middle Academy. The original episode was pu...
EP #363: The Art of Chilling Out for Women in Midlife with Angela D. Coleman.
04 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This week's episode is about learning the Art of Chilling Out in midlife with special guest, Angela D. Coleman. Do you feel anxious? Maybe you're ov...
EP #362: 3 Ways that Time is On Your Side in Midlife
27 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This week's episode is about 3 ways that your mindset around the passage of time can support you by being on your side in midlife. It's common to thin...
EP #361: How to Sleep Better in Midlife with Morgan Adams
20 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This week's episode is about how to sleep better in midlife with special guest, Morgan Adams. Morgan Adams is a holistic sleep coach for women who s...
EP #360: Understanding Wants & Needs in Midlife So You Don't Have Regrets
13 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This week's episode of the Women in the Middle® Podcast is all about Understanding Wants & Needs in Midlife So You Don't Have Regrets. In midlife...
EP #359: Encore: A Candid & Humorous Look at Aging with Joan Lunden
06 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This week's encore episode of the Women in the Middle® Podcast features special guest, Joan Lunden. Joan stops by the podcast today to talk about her...
EP #358: 5 Ways to Bring Summer Camp Vibes Back in Midlife
30 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is all about five ways to bring summer camp vibes back in midlife. As a kid, thinking about summer camp can feel like magical anticipa...
EP #357: Encore: 8 Steps to Improve How Accountable You Are in Midlife
23 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today's encore episode is all about 8 simple steps to improve your accountability to yourself in midlife. Learning how to be more accountable to yours...
EP #356: Your Changing Empty Nest in Midlife
16 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is all about managing the experience of your changing empty nest. Wherever you are in your changing empty nest experience, it can be f...
EP #355: When Passion for Brain Health Helps You Overcome Fear in Midlife with Berniece Hunt
09 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is all about When Passion for Brain Health Helps You Overcome Fear in Midlife. My guest on today's show is Berniece Hunt. When B...
EP #354: Worrying About Random Aches and Pains in Midlife
02 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today's show is about worrying about aches and pains in midlife. What we're really talking about is when you freak yourself out and worry about your h...
EP #353: Encore: Busting Your Own Negative Thoughts About Aging
25 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today's encore episode is all about busting and becoming aware of negative thoughts about aging, especially when you don't think you have any! This ...
EP #352: 4 Steps to Solve Your Midlife Happiness Mystery
18 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today's podcast episode is about 4 steps to solve your midlife happiness mystery. The road to happiness can be confusing in midlife! Feeling stuck i...
EP #351: Cultivating Relationships in Life and Business to Enrich Midlife with Caterina Rando
11 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today's podcast episode is about cultivating relationships in life and business to enrich midlife. My guest this week is Caterina Rando. Caterina ...
EP #350: A Passionate Career Pivot to Help Midlife Women Lose Weight in Midlife with Heather Awad, MD
04 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today's podcast episode is about how a passionate career pivot led to helping midlife women lose weight. My guest today is Heather Awad, MD. Heather ...
EP #349: Take a Midlife Career Break and Build a Richer Life with Katrina McGee
28 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today's podcast episode is about how you can take a midlife career break and build a richer life…now…as part of your happiness plan. My guest tod...
EP #348: 4 Things I Wish I knew When I Turned 50
21 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today's podcast episode is about what I wish I knew about turning 50. Now that I'm 60 and 10 years have flown by since I turned 50, I can appreciate...
EP #347: Infertility & Becoming Free to Conceive in Midlife with Dawn Williams
14 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today's podcast episode is about infertility & becoming free to conceive in midlife with Dawn Williams. Dawn is a mom, author, and fertility guid...
EP #346: New Podcast for Midlife Women: Women in the Middle® Entrepreneurs
07 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today's podcast episode is about the launch of a new midlife podcast, the Women in the Middle Entrepreneurs, which focuses on the reality of running ...
EP #345: The Power of Strategic Authenticity in your Midlife Career with Erin Hatzikostas
29 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today's podcast episode is about The Power of Strategic Authenticity in your Midlife Career with Erin Hatzikostas. Erin Hatzikostas is a former Cor...
EP#344: Making Waves after 50 with Former CEO of Celebrity Cruises, Lisa Lutoff-Perlo
22 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today's podcast episode is about making waves after 50 by taking chances and risks and learning to embrace and enjoy the ride with Lisa Lutofff-Perlo....
EP #343: Encore: Finding Midlife Purpose & Passion From Your Childhood Claim to Fame
15 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today's encore episode is all about finding clues to midlife passion and purpose from your childhood claim to fame, that is, what you were really goo...
EP #342: 3 Simple Steps to Help You Navigate Your Pre-Retirement Phase
08 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today's podcast episode is about 3 simple steps to help you navigate your pre-retirement phase. This phase can go on for years as you're starting to ...
EP #341: Who Are You Going to Be in your Next Chapter in Midlife?
01 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today's podcast episode is about thinking about who are going to be in your next chapter in midlife. When you're over 50, it's easy to have been liv...
EP #340: Organize Your Home, Life, and Mind in Midlife with Shira Gill
25 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today's podcast episode is about how to organize your home, life, and mind with special guest and author, Shira Gill. Shira Gill is a globally reco...
EP #339: Emotions & Flowdreaming as a Method for Manifesting in Midlife with Summer McStravick
18 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today's podcast episode is about using your emotions & Flowdreaming as a method for manifesting what you want in midlife. Today's interview is with...
EP #338: 4 Easy Steps to Make a Fun Commitment in Midlife
11 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today's podcast episode is about 4 easy steps to make a fun commitment in midlife. Interestingly, it's common to want more fun in your life but not ha...
Ep #337: Reflections: 10 Years in Life Coaching & Business with TaVona Boggs
04 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today's podcast episode is about celebrating the 10th anniversary of becoming a certified life coach, and I'm doing so with a fun and honest conversat...
EP #336: The Top 10 Days of the Year - A Fun Midlife New Year's Celebration
28 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's encore episode is all about how to make a "Top 10 Days of the Year" list for your New Year celebration in midlife…or at any age. Hear all ...
EP #335: Curiosity and Insight from Forks in the Road in Midlife
21 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's podcast episode is about how and why curiosity related to your decision making around past "forks in the road" in your life can be particular...
EP #334: Cool Down with Breathable Sleepwear for Night Sweats in Menopause with Cathy Rust
14 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's podcast episode is about how to cool down with breathable sleepwear for night sweats in menopause and the entrepreneurial journey to figure it...
EP #333: Goodbye to Chronic Dieting & Hello to Listening to your Body with Lisa Salisbury
07 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's podcast episode is about saying goodbye to chronic dieting & hello to listening to your body with Lisa Salisbury. This is a topic that so many...
EP #332: DNA Discoveries & Surprises in Midlife with Judy Ben-Asher and Connie
30 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's podcast episode is about the effect of a DNA surprise and discovery in midlife. Each of my two guests found out in midlife that the father w...
EP #331: Why a Happiness & Gratitude Jar in Midlife is a Great Idea
23 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Listen to hear why creating a Happiness & Gratitude Jar in midlife is a great idea! You might actually be surprised about how useful and fun this lit...
EP #330: Becoming a Professional Collage Artist in Midlife with Catherine Rains
16 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
On today's episode, you'll hear a story about becoming a professional collage artist in midlife with guest, Catherine Rains. I'm sure you're familia...
EP #329: How Your Empty Nest Can Lead to Your Next Adventure with Torie Henderson
09 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's podcast episode is about how your empty nest can lead to your next adventure with Torie Henderson. In midlife, it's not uncommon to feel envi...
EP #328: Top 10 Ways to Use Your Midlife Crisis for Good
02 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's podcast episode is about the top 10 ways to use your midlife crisis for good. It's common to wonder if you're having a midlife crisis someti...
EP #327: How to Re-Envision your Bucket List in Midlife
26 Oct 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's podcast episode is about how to re-envision your bucket list in midlife. Your bucket list refers to a number of experiences or goals for achie...
EP #326: Busting Through Fear About What You Really Want In Midlife
19 Oct 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's podcast episode is busting through fear about what you really want in midlife. Even though it may seem counterintuitive that you might be gett...
EP #325: Live Free and Hike: Rebuild and Reinvent in Midlife with Linda Magoon
12 Oct 2023
Contributed by Lukas
SPECIAL NOTE: Trigger Warning for this Episode: A PORTION OF THIS PODCAST CONCERNS REFERENCES TO CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. If you're ...
EP #324: The Minimum Baseline Strategy for Procrastination & Overwhelm in Midlife
05 Oct 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's podcast episode is about a simple strategy to end procrastination and overwhelm in midlife called "minimum baseline." When you find yourself f...
EP #323: How to Trade Corporate For Consulting in Midlife With Amy Rasdal
28 Sep 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's podcast episode is about how to trade corporate for consulting in midlife. Can you relate to wanting to leave your corporate career? Wondering...
EP #322: The "Good Enough" Challenge as a Perfectionist in Midlife
21 Sep 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's podcast episode is about being a perfectionist and/or overachiever and why you should take the "good enough" challenge If you're a perfect...
EP #321: Client Success: From Stuck to Joyful Work-Life Balance as a Midlife Nutrition Coach with Amy Wilson
14 Sep 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's podcast episode is about how to go from stuck to joyful, work-life balance as a midlife nutrition coach, pharmacist, and entrepreneur. ...
EP #320: Midlife Expectations and You
07 Sep 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's podcast episode is about midlife expectations and the positive and negative ways they affect you. Expectations are quite interesting. They ca...
EP #319: Encore: Fun on the Daily in Midlife in 4 Easy Steps
31 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's encore episode will help you have fun on the daily in midlife in 4 easy steps. Just think…you can be more intentional about making your lif...
EP #318: Making Decisions About Parents' Belongings After They've Passed with Karen Hecker
24 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's interview is with someone who has been making a lot of decisions about what to do with her parents' belongings after they passed. Karen is...
EP #317: Becoming Your Midlife Possibility Girl
17 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today is all about becoming your Midlife Possibility Girl. It's really the core of my work with women in the middle. Learn more: https://suzyrosens...
EP #316: From Healing to Reinvention in Midlife with Jayne Dearborn
10 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
My guest this week is a successful entrepreneur who has reinvented herself many times and comes from a place of surviving to thriving. Jayne Dearb...
Ep #315: Client Success: Stop Waiting to Have Fun in Midlife with Dr. Perri Gallagher
03 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This week you'll meet a client who had success by making midlife changes that brought incredible happiness into her life. There are many powerful ...
EP #314: 6 Surprising Life Lessons from a Midlife Coach Turning 60
27 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This week I'm sharing 6 surprising life lessons from a midlife coach turning 60, and that midlife coach is ME! Also, you'll hear about two big announ...
EP #313: Talking with My High School Friends Turning 60 This Year
20 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This week I'm reminiscing with some high school friends who are also 60 this year, in 2023. When I started thinking about all the fun ways I wanted t...
EP #312: Good Grief! Starting a Registered Charity with Eileen Jadd & Justine Silver
13 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This week we're talking about grief and creating a registered charity in midlife. My guests are Justine Silver and Eileen Jadd, founders of Good Grie...
EP #311: Advice from America to Find the Meaning of Life with Imran Nuri
06 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
My guest this week is the creator of the new book ADVICE FROM AMERICA: Life Advice and Photos of 1,000 Strangers from 48 States. His name is Imran...
EP #310: Frustrating Travel in Midlife
29 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This week we're talking about frustrating travel in midlife. It turns out mindfulness can vastly improve your emotional experience, even a stressful ...
EP #309: The Magic of Surrender, Courage and Truth with Kute Blackson
22 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This week we're talking about the magic of surrender, courage, and truth with Kute Blackson. Kute is someone who believes that it takes true coura...
EP #308: Creating Your Passion-Filled Future with Jessie Mahoney
15 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This week we're talking about creating your passion-filled future with Dr. Jessie Mahoney. In midlife, it's not that uncommon to feel a vague, naggi...
EP #307: A Candid Chat with Empty Nest Moms in Midlife
08 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This week's episode is about your empty nest as a woman in the middle. Join Suzanne, Diane, Kathy, and Laura, empty nest moms from Canada and the US...
EP #306: Underwear, Self-Care & You in Midlife: An Encore Episode
01 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This popular encore episode of Women in the Middle is about the way that your underwear serves as a representation of your self-care mindset and act...
EP #305: Why You Need a New Midlife Operating System in Midlife
25 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is all about why you need a new Midlife Operating System™ in midlife. As you become a woman in the middle, you may realize that yo...
EP #304: The Trials and Tribulations of Long-Term Relationships with Dr. Liz Jenkins
18 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is all about the trials and tribulations of long-term relationships with Dr. Liz Jenkins. In the 50+ community, some of us have been ...
EP #303: Busting Your Own Negative Thoughts About Aging
11 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is all about busting and becoming aware of your OWN negative thoughts about aging, especially when you don't think you have any! Joi...
EP #302: Midlife career pivots and Being on the right path with Johanna Ginsberg
04 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is all about midlife pivots and being on the right path with Johanna Ginsberg. Johanna Ginsberg is a journalist and attorney who belie...
EP #301: How You Can Design the Long Life You Love with Ayse Birsel
27 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is all about designing a long life you love with Ayse Birsel. When you are older, you tend to be more open to actually exploring wha...
EP #300: Taking Care of You: Women's Guide to Better Health with Dr. Mary O'Connor
20 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is all about how to empower women to take better care of themselves with an amazing new book called Taking Care of You: The Empowered...
EP #299: Welcoming More Gratitude Into Your Life with Lori Saitz
13 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is all about why welcoming more gratitude into your life is a great idea with special guest, Lori Seitz. You'll also hear the story ...
EP #298: Infuse your Life with Joy with Martha Bourlakas
06 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is all about the importance of infusing your life with joy with special guest, Martha Bourlakas. Martha Bourlakas is the founder of...
EP #297: Farting After 50: Gut Health & Midlife with Bonnie Wisener
30 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is all about farting and all things gut health because it's something that has a lot of stigma around it and it needs to be better un...
EP #296: Positive Psychology, Life Coaching, and Transformation with Dr. Sasha Heinz
23 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is all about positive psychology, life coaching, and transformation. We're going to talk about how to make sustainable changes in y...
EP #295: Making Magic in Midlife: Hanging Out With Gray Whales
16 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is about creating magic in midlife and in this case while hanging out with the gray whales in Mexico. I've got a real treat for you. ...
EP #294: How Poker Led to Helping Adult Children with Challenges with Barbara Decker
09 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
When you're a serial entrepreneur, you think about all kinds of things that you're good at, including what's going on at home. That's what it was lik...
EP#293: Having the Courage to Find your Dream Job in Midlife with Lilly Scheetz
02 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Do you wish you had your dream job in midlife? If you did, what would it look like? And more importantly, why don't you have your dream job? Meet my...
EP #292: Learning the Skill of Finding Balance with Molly Claire.
23 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Are you wondering about finding more balance in your life? If so, you're not alone. And my guest today has some amazing insights on this topic! In t...
EP #291: Encore – Two Year Anniversary: A Book About Celebrating More!
16 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Do you focus on celebrating more in your life now, especially after 50? Many don't, but this can be your new mantra! It's the two-year anniversary of...
Ep#290: Going from Feeling Overwhelmed & Overworked to Balanced & Excited with Christine Strak
09 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is a client success story about going from overwhelmed & overworked to balanced & excited in midlife with some fun surprises along th...
EP #289: The Courage to Pursue Happiness with Vet Coach Nadina Cojucaru, DVM
02 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is about having the courage to pursue happiness with Vet Coach Dr. Nadina Cojocaru, DVM. Nadina is a Small Animal Veterinarian and a...
EP #288: Trusting Your Journey as an Entrepreneur with Jillian Leslie
26 Jan 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is about trusting your journey as an entrepreneur with Jillian Leslie. The journey is typically a long and winding one, full of pivots...
EP 287: Ageism in the Workplace in Midlife with Patti Temple Rocks
19 Jan 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is about ageism in the workplace in midlife. Most of us believe ageism exists and our conversation will really help you appreciate a g...
EP #286: A Midlife Widow's Search To Find Herself Again with Debbie Weiss
12 Jan 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is about a midlife widow's search to find herself again with special guest, Debbie Weiss. Debbie is a former attorney who earned her M...
EP 285: New Podcast for Midlife Women Entrepreneurs
05 Jan 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is all about a new sister podcast to the Women in the Middle®; it's called the REAL Women in the Middle®! Discover how and why the n...
EP284: 14 Free Resources to Help You Get Unstuck in Midlife
29 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is all about 14 free resources for you if you're over 50 and feeling stuck. Of course, using a free resource is a very different exper...
EP 283: Make a Top 10 Days List for your New Year Celebration in Midlife
22 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is all about how to make a "Top 10 Days of the Year" list for your new year celebration in midlife…or at any age. Hear all about a N...
EP #282: How to Love the Skin You're In with Angela Jia Kim of Savor Beauty
15 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is all about how to learn to love the skin you're in and totally reimagine yourself in midlife by creating a successful skincare busin...
EP 281: How to Make Big Midlife Changes with Podcast Listener Dawn Tolbert
08 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is all about how to make big midlife changes with special guest and podcast listener, Dawn Tolbert. In fact, she reached out to me to ...
EP 280: Midlife Vacation Mindset Power
01 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is all about your mindset power when you're on your midlife vacation. It's easy to feel safe once your vacation starts. Unfortunately,...
EP #279: The Art of Saying Thank You To Yourself on Thanksgiving and Beyond
24 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is all about the art of saying thank you to you during Thanksgiving and beyond. Listen to discover why it's not that common at all to ...
EP #278: How to Get Unstuck & Find your Dreams in Midlife
17 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is all about how to get unstuck and find your dreams in midlife. At first, you may not appreciate why it can be difficult to identify ...
EP 277: How to Get Unstuck & Pivot in Corporate with Lia Garvin
10 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is all about how to get unstuck and pivot in and out of corporate life with special guest, Lia Garvin. Lia's got a great "get unstuck ...
EP 276: How to Celebrate & Honor Yourself for your 60th Birthday
03 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is about honoring and celebrating an important milestone, your 60th birthday. Even though you may have mixed emotions about this landm...
EP 275: Midlife Empty Nesting with Somewhat Independent Kids
27 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is about Midlife Empty Nesting with Somewhat Independent Kids; you're invited to look closely at the transition you might be going th...
EP 274: Fun, Fear, Creativity & Midlife Change with Comedian Katie Goodman
20 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is all about fun, fear, creativity, and midlife change with special guest, Comedian, Katie Goodman. Katie Goodman is an award-winning ...
EP 273: How to Find Joy Again after Drastic Changes in Midlife with Michele Wirth
13 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is all about learning how to find joy again after drastic changes in midlife. Michele Wirth lost her travel business during the pandem...
EP 272: Finding Midlife Purpose & Passion From Your Childhood Claim to Fame
06 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is all about finding clues to midlife passion and purpose from your childhood claim to fame. Learn more: https://suzyrosenstein.com...
EP 271: When You Play the Waiting Game in Midlife
29 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is all about knowing when you are playing the waiting game in midlife and why you need to understand what you're doing. It's common fo...
EP 270: 8 Steps to Improve How Accountable You Are in Midlife
22 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is all about 8 simple steps to improve your accountability to yourself in midlife. Learning how to be more accountable to yourself in ...
Ep 269: Strength and Fitness in Midlife with Alicia Jones
15 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is all about strength and fitness in midlife with my special guest, Alicia Jones. It's no surprise that when strength and fitness are ...
Ep 268: Encore! 4 Ways to Reinvent Yourself in Midlife
08 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
If you're feeling stuck in midlife, you probably know you are going to have to make a change and reinvent yourself to be happy going forward. Learn mo...
Ep 267: A Bracelet, Kindness & a 70 year Journey: A Shocking Midlife Surprise
01 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is about a personal story about a bracelet, kindness & a 70 year journey that was so surprising it's hard to believe that it's true. T...
Ep 266: Creative Expression in Midlife: Finding your Passion for Alcohol Ink with Faigie Kobre
25 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Today's episode is about why creative expression in midlife is especially important to midlife women. My guest is Faigie Kobre, someone who shifted ge...