“Conservation is not drones and DNA samples or pamphlets or computers. It is people, and we should be investing in those people.” In this episode of World of Sharks, we sit down with fisheries scientist, director of the Fish and Fisheries Lab at James Cook University and Save Our Seas Foundation Scientific Advisor Dr Andrew Chin to discuss the challenges and realities of shark conservation and management, and how we can support the people working on the ground to make the ocean a better place. Key time stamps: 5.47: Andrew's early career and swimming with reef sharks 15.43: Sharks of the South Pacific 23.21: Citizen Science 28.27: The importance of feedback and long-term relationships with stakeholders 33.18: Shark Search Indo Pacific 38.31: Conservation in practice and capacity building 46.00: Support for people in the field Links Andrew: @spinnershark7 Fish and Fisheries Lab: (https://www.fishandfisheries.com) Shark Search Indo-Pacific: (https://www.sharksearch-indopacific.org/). SOSF Conservation Fellowships: https://saveourseas.com/grants/funding-applications/conservation-fellowship Dan Pallotta's TED talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/dan_pallotta_the_way_we_think_about_charity_is_dead_wrong?subtitle=en You can also find an accessible summary of this episode and more information here: www.saveourseas.com/worldofsharks/podcast

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