Marina Mussapi (LI) at the Moleskin Foundation came by the podcast and we spoke of creativity as a vehicle for transformation. How can we support and invest in the arts without corrupting their spirit? What does it look like to invest contextually in local contexts to empower creators? What does it look like to decanter the heroic role of the investor and focus on creating conditions for movement? We speak of this throughout the work Marina is doing with the Creative Pioneers Fund among other things. We also speak of the centrality of questions and inquiry and right towards the Marina brings the liberating word of tenderness into the conversation. This is a wonderful conversation that relate to investing regeneratively in regenerative projects and a different way of moving in the world. Enjoy.

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