How to Get the Most Out of Those Stockpiled Credit-Card Points or Miles

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Jacob Passy 1:28
Oftentimes airlines will run incentives or deals where they'll give you an extra bonus for transferring your points from like Chase or American Express to them. And so that will make them go even further and will help you make those trips a reality much more easily.
J.R. Whalen 1:44
We'll talk to Wall Street Journal reporter Jacob Passy about ways to get the most out of travel rewards after the break.
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Need a vacation and want to use your credit card points or frequent flyer miles? Wall Street Journal travel reporter Jacob Passy joins me with the best ways to put those points to work. Jacob, Americans are sitting on a stockpile of rewards points. Why do people leave their points unused?
Jacob Passy 2:33
people are afraid not to get a good value out of them. There's this idea that you want them to go as far as they possibly can, or you have that dream vacation that you're saving up for. A lot of folks will save them up for a rainy day. If you need to fly somewhere last minute, maybe it'll be cheaper to do it if you book with points. But they're not necessarily the best ways of using those points because, well, you're not using them.
J.R. Whalen 2:58
What happens to your points if you just let them sit in the account?
Jacob Passy 3:01
It depends. All this varies from program to program, but generally speaking, the points over time are going to lose value. What we've seen in the travel space for years now is that basically there's inflation. So as the cost of travel goes up, so does the cost in points to book that same travel. But with certain programs, you'll also see points potentially expire if you don't use them or if you're not engaging with the program. So that's something to keep in mind. Those points may not be there in your account if you're not paying attention to those policies.
J.R. Whalen 3:31
You spoke with executives from rewards websites. What kinds of travel do they recommend people plan if they're going to use points?
Jacob Passy 3:39
A bit of anything. There's certain rules of thumb that they abide by. Transatlantic business class flights are going to be the biggest bang for your buck oftentimes. You'll find these like crazy deals on those, but obviously that's not feasible for everyone and not everyone has enough points to put towards something like that. But really at the end of the day, if you're getting about one and a half to two cents per point, if you're comparing it to the sticker value of the trip that you're planning, that's a good use.
J.R. Whalen 4:11
Once people decide to book a trip, what's the first thing that travelers should do?
Jacob Passy 4:15
They should start off by doing an inventory. You want to know how many points or miles you have, where you have them.

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