In this bonus episode, Leo interviews expert Jocelyn Glei, who has shifted her expertise from productivity to a slower, deeper approach to work.This is an incredible episode filled with wisdom and tools for accessing a deeper creativity. Must listen!Topics CoveredLeo interviews Jocelyn Glei, a former productivity expert who transitioned to a more transformative, slower approach to workJocelyn's background includes working with 99U, creating the 99U conference, and writing a book on email productivityJocelyn's burnout led her to start the "Hurry Slowly" podcast and explore personal and collective transformationThe importance of moving away from mainstream productivity and embracing a slower, more inquisitive, and heartfelt approach to workThe shift from productivity to receptivity and how it can lead to more efficient and sustainable outcomesRestorative activities that involve doing something different to refresh one's mindsetFear, particularly related to scheduling and deadlines, as a common obstacle to maintaining a receptive state during workThe limitations of the expert mode, which can be rigid and uncreativeLeaning towards the experimental side to open up opportunities for creativity and learning from creative mistakesThe fear associated with not having a strict plan but highlights the beauty in unexpected outcomesThe importance of self-trust and leaning into imperfectionsCreating systems to collect and revisit creative insightsResourcesJocelyn's podcast, Hurry SlowlyJocelyn's brilliant newsletterHer RESET courseConnect with LeoZen HabitsYoutube channelX (Twitter) InstagramZen Habits Facebook GroupTiktok channelEmail [email protected] Fearless Living AcademyCreditsIntro music composition: Salem Beladonna & Robrecht DumareyEditor: Justin Cruz

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