Running with a murder podcast as the soundtrack - weird or not?
episodePreviously titled “Weird or nah - the jury decides” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 4, 2026
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
You tapped it, so we're playing it. It's ZM's Brian Clint, the podcast. You, in the time between leaving ZM and now, when I first met you, you were not a runner. You were like me. Not a runner.
Yeah. Did you ever run back then? A little bit. My mum's always been a runner and she would always take me on runs with her. She once bought me this book called Run, Fat Bitch, Run. What? What? Sorry, context. It's like a self-help book. No, that doesn't make it better. Anyway, she wanted me to start liking running and she thought that this would help me.
Did it work?
Sorry, I don't have trauma. I love my mum.
Was that your birthday present or something?
No, I can't remember. That just popped into my head. Anyway, there was something else in there. But, yeah, so she's always been a runner and she really wanted me to go on runs with her. She just wanted a little buddy. And now, like, I don't because I'm way faster than her.
Now running is your whole personality.
It is not.
It's part of it. Tell us what you're training for at the moment.
So in a couple of weeks at the end of August, I'm doing an ultra marathon. It's my first ultra marathon. It's only, well, sorry.
No, no, no.
It's not only, but it's 50K. So when you've done a full marathon at 40, anything over, I should have just run like another extra K and then I would have been an ultra marathon runner.
Is it 42 as a marathon? 42.2. So anything over that is ultra? Yeah. And you're going to run 50Ks.
I know.
In one day.
In one go. Hopefully within like six or seven hours. How much of it do you walk? So it's down in Naseby, down near Dunedin in South Island. My partner Hayden, he ran the 100K last year. He's doing the 100K again. He's, he's, yeah. It's, there's something, I'm not sure about it.
What's he running from, eh? demons when i hit people who run that much i'm like okay so you can't be alone with your thoughts yeah you know well it's like and it's not or are you alone with your thoughts i don't know because i've never run that far it's not even that good for you because my knees just i said yesterday i said to her because um uh actually let's not bring age into it it's not important but i said how's the body and you said not good i've got bursitis in my knees
And I've got tendinopathy in my hips.
It's very impressive. I sound shady, but I'm impressed. I'm not inspired, but I'm impressed.
I haven't done it yet, but we'll see.
So we were like, wow, you must have to have some amazing playlists to run that much. But no, tell us what you listen to when you're out running.
Um, so primarily what the only thing that I listen to are, um, audio books and, um, the audio books I listen to are like murder thriller stories. Like for example, I can play you a little bit. This is what I'm listening to when I'm like 30 K deep.
Okay.
How did Caitlin become an ultramarathon runner and what race is she training for?
I delivered your newspaper. Remember the delivery boy yesterday morning and somebody else too.
Wait, that's not a good example.
But you're going to play as a real murdering pet.
They usually are really murdering.
They sound more like a postman pet.
This is another one. From you, Miss Dark, Paige said.
She returned to her seat while Ella found one across the room.
These are not good examples. I'm just... But anyway, you can imagine. Usually, usually it's like in her legs were going to be cut off in one minute if she didn't run. And so it makes me kind of run faster.
Interesting. I find it really weird. But I thought, because we're going to provide a service to people this afternoon called Weird or Not Weird. We decide whether the thing about you is weird or not weird. Right. And you're going to be the first participant. Yeah. Do you think that no one else does this? Claudia, you're on the jury. It's a jury of three. Ella, you're on the jury on this as well, and I'm also on the jury.
Always ready to judge. Okay.
Listening to murder books while running, out running long distances alone, weird or not weird? Those are your options. Three, two, one.
Weird. Weird, weird, weird, weird, weird. Are you wanting it to happen to you? Like, why do you do that?
Is it being terrified?
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–2:51
2
How did Caitlin become an ultramarathon runner and what race is she training for?
2:51–6:26
3
Why does Caitlin listen to murder thrillers and true crime while running long distances?
6:26–8:31
4
What is the 'Weird or Not Weird' jury format and how will it work today?
8:31–8:55
5
Is listening to murder audiobooks while running alone judged as weird or not weird?
8:55–10:39
Speakers
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