Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - 17th September 2026

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What is the opening banter about the Filio‑Fish car and the Top‑Six menu items?

Vaughan Smith 0:00
From the ZM Podcast Network. This
Vaughan 0:03
is for
Vaughan Smith 0:03
Flesh Vaughan and Haley's Big Pond. Thanks to animates.
Vaughan 0:06
Making happy happen for pets. Good morning. Welcome to the show. Fletch Vaughan and Haley. Uh the top six coming up, Vaughan.
Hayley Jane Sproul 0:13
Send on the streets
Vaughan 0:14
a Filio fish car.
Hayley Jane Sproul 0:17
Sorry? I know. I can't I think this week this
Fletcher Christian 0:21
week I'll say tomorrow's giving big.
Hayley Jane Sproul 0:23
If you're gonna
Vaughan 0:23
hit a fillet fish. Little
Fletcher Christian 0:24
midnight fill out.
Vaughan 0:26
Yeah. Oh yeah, we've got a birthday, don't we? We've got a birthday tomorrow afternoon.
Fletcher Christian 0:29
Early dinner.
Hayley Jane Sproul 0:30
Yep.
Fletcher Christian 0:31
And so it's giving A later
Hayley Jane Sproul 0:33
snack. Well, there's a car that looks like a filio fish, and I've got the top six um Maca's menu items that deserve to be on uh d to deserve to be a car before the filio fish. 'Cause you know Not a lot of love here for the Philadelphia.
Vaughan 0:48
How did they get the b how do they get the wheels under the wheel? Wait, wait, wait, show
Fletcher Christian 0:50
me,
Hayley Jane Sproul 0:51
show me.
Vaughan 0:52
It's a It's been around
Hayley Jane Sproul 0:54
for ages. It has, yeah. And it's just resurfaced. Like someone had it in a shed and they were like, Oh, we should take the Filio fish for a hone.
Fletcher Christian 1:00
I'm shopping for a new car at the moment.
Hayley Jane Sproul 1:02
I say get it. I would be it would be
Vaughan 1:05
the best thing. I don't think it would fit in the work car park. I don't think it'd be hybrid or electric, which is what you're after. Yeah, yeah.
Fletcher Christian 1:11
Okay. Damn it.
Vaughan 1:13
Well, we'll deal with that in the top six soon.
Hayley Jane Sproul 1:15
But um if you're on birth control and you do wheeze in a toilet You might be causing a huge problem for fish.
Unknown 1:22
Wow. Oh the flitch morning hailey big pod.
Hayley Jane Sproul 1:28
I'm I'm lovin' I'm loving to get into a little bit of a hyper focused deep dive on how human medication is affecting fish in the wild.
Fletcher Christian 1:36
Wow, I didn't even think about them.
Hayley Jane Sproul 1:39
The fish.
Fletcher Christian 1:40
My medication impacting their um Yeah. Well it all ends up in
Hayley Jane Sproul 1:44
like the you know, wastewater treatment plants and then it gets treated and then it gets, you know, put back into the system.
Vaughan 1:50
But it gets treated, like it takes all the poo's and toilet paper.
Hayley Jane Sproul 1:58
It's just a medication. And
Vaughan 2:00
it's not just that, it's all the like illicit drug use. Yes. Yeah, they're
Fletcher Christian 2:03
high on because w meth numbers went up, right? And that's how they test it is um the fish and how like pinging off the bloody I could not see
Hayley Jane Sproul 2:10
um anything about like drugs for fish. Like like the what do you call them? Recreational drugs. Because technically medication is drugs, but it's prescribed drugs. Well, um researchers added synthetic estrogen, which is found in birth control pills, to a lake in Canada three times a week over three open water seasons. So similar to what it ends up like in rivers and lakes around the world. From woman taking birth control and then wheezing and then it goes through the thing and then it gets put back into the And then the water system and um they were like it will my w our expectation is the estrogen will calm down the males. Oh really? Knock a bit of
Fletcher Christian 2:49
testosterone down, give a bit of balance?
Hayley Jane Sproul 2:51
Yeah. What happened? It completely the opposite.
Fletcher Christian 2:54
They get aggro.
Hayley Jane Sproul 2:55
Yeah, they got aggro. So so more fish, males and um feminized males and possibly female fish were crowding around the nest. And so the males became more territorial 'cause they're like, there's more people coming look. Get away, get away, get away, my nest, my nest, my nest. So egg counts dropped early on and they were like, Well that's uh also the opposite of what we expected to happen.
Fletcher Christian 3:20
Right.
Hayley Jane Sproul 3:20
So
Fletcher Christian 3:20
what
Hayley Jane Sproul 3:21
it's estrogen.
Fletcher Christian 3:22
Right. So they what they expected to happen was for everyone to be chill when they gave them everyone to be chill hormonal birth control.

How do birth‑control pills and other human medications affect wild fish?

Fletcher Christian 3:28
Yeah.
Hayley Jane Sproul 3:28
They weren't trying to like boost numbers but they were just like we're just gonna test we're gonna cure it. But what
Fletcher Christian 3:32
happened is that they became very territorial. They became very aggressive.
Hayley Jane Sproul 3:36
Yep, and they would the woman went wandering so they were laying less eggs at home, so the population like plumps.
Fletcher Christian 3:42
I don't want to be near you right now. Yeah. Yeah. I'm on hormonal birth control. Had a complete personality shift. Yeah. Don't touch me, don't look at me.
Hayley Jane Sproul 3:48
So don't impregnate me. Certainly don't and well no, if 'cause they lay the eggs and then they get fertilized, don't they? So I was like, What other drugs are we taking?

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