This plant has been used by human beings for thousands of years with samples found in 5000-year-old pottery discovered in the upper Amazon. The Mayans considered it a gift from the gods and used it in their sacred ceremonies, where it was believed to have mystical healing powers. For the Aztecs, it was worth more than gold and given to their victorious warriors. We are talking, of course, about chocolate. Even though our relationship with chocolate spans thousands of years we still can’t agree about it. It seems obvious that something so delicious must be bad for us. Can there be any truth to the claims that chocolate can improve our mood, our health and even our libido? Jonathan speaks to Professor Tim Spector, one of the world's top 100 most cited scientists and author of the diet myth, and Spencer Hyman, one of the world’s leading chocolate experts and founder of the craft chocolate business Cocoa Runners. Download our FREE guide — Top 10 Tips to Live Healthier: https://zoe.com/freeguide Timecodes: 00:00 - Intro 00:10 - Jonathan’s introduction 01:19 - Lighting round questions, with true/false answers 05:49 - Why certain chocolates might be good 06:34 - What is fermentation? 09:54 - Which kinds of chocolates are good or bad for you? 12:14 - How to figure out the differences in chocolates 14:12 - Why is are chocolates classified the way they are 16:20 - Considerations about dark chocolate 20:38 - Personalized responses to chocolate 23:39 - On chocolate addiction 24:55 - How to taste chocolate 28:10 - Is smell an indicator as to what happens in our microbiomes? 31:52 - 3 things you should know when buying chocolate 33:17 - Description of chocolate in nature 37:15 - Sugar in chocolate 40:29 - Is fruit and nut milk chocolate healthier than dark chocolate? 41:27 - How much chocolate do you need for it to be beneficial? 42:59 - Should I watch out for lecithins in chocolate? 44:52 - Is eating half a bar of chocolate before bed a bad idea? 46:24 - Goodbyes & Outro Follow ZOE on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zoe/ This podcast was produced by Fascinate Productions.

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