【导语】在my club初识关雅荻的时候，我兴奋坏了，有一种穿越时光与“偶像”对话的感觉。只因为我是看着他的节目长大的。从电视到网络，他制作主持的影评节目陪着我从懵懂少年长成电影爱好者。后来我才知道他还做了更酷的事：成为户外极限运动爱好者，超马越野跑、环球航海、主持户外节目、组织急救培训，如今又开启了一项雄心勃勃的播客计划。两个青岛小哥共话成长、探险与影像的轨迹，方才发现，现在的样子早在幼年便已经注定。他的兴趣驳杂广泛，钻研无所畏惧。让我们一同领略一种心智与体魄双全的“开放性”活法。【嘉宾】关雅荻资深电影人、户外极限运动爱好者视频播客「关雅荻·开放对话」主理人【你可能会听到】10:45真正的flow是对话当中最要义的东西21:23邻桌小姐姐的“侧耳倾听”带来的启发35:13认真、随机地对话是我选择的播客方向37:23《鱿鱼游戏》再次让我对单纯多巴胺刺激的内容保持警惕51:38与陌生人对话也是田野调查的新方式58:37兴趣广泛在现代社会到底是优点还是致命弱点01:16:34生活就是播客01:24:24如果我不follow主流价值观，我该怎么办？【BGM】Beegie Adair-Days of Wine and Roses
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